The problem I see with this whole idea is, the Vet corps will not have to deal with this.  I assume that all the Vet corps have all been stockpiling kernels (and now, Saving EP too).  I have been, and I know that many others are doing the same.  The second this patch drops the Vet corps will first max out personal research, and then dump all their excess RP into the corp.  I don't care what kind of multiplier the DEV's implement.  Do to beacon pits, Observer timers, and the fact that we have known that this patch was coming for months, and have all been stockpiling kernels.  This multiplier will not matter to us because we have more kernels than will ever be needed to finish all the tech.  This will not be the case for new players/new corps.  They will have to grind all of the kernels, or join one of the major power blocks. 

On the topic of power blocks,  yes, they are very detrimental to the game.  There needs to be many many different corps.  If they align into major power blocks that is fine (Which they will do) so long as there are lots of different corps in a coalition.  But this 2 party system we have now doesn't work.  Ask any American how well a 2 party system works for its government.  And by making it so that the Vet corps get the research instantly, while the new corps have to grind out the research for months, if not years,  that just further separates the old guard from any new players that come in. 

The system we have now is basically this.  If you aren't T4 fit, you are at a disadvantage, because everyone else is T4 fit.  So long as the de facto standard is T4, then the new corps need to be able to get there quickly.  And no, the new players wont be able to buy T4 with any regularity, because as demand goes up, price goes up.  So the more new players we get the higher the demand will be, the more the Producers can charge for their products.  Not to mention that the more players we get the more PVP there will be, which then further increase the demand.  On top of that, even if you are T4 fit, but your skills aren't maxed or closed to max, you are still at a disadvantage.  But, by getting the new corps to higher grade equipment sooner, they can mitigate the equipment disadvantage, and then it just becomes a question of EP / PVP experience.  Or, somehow we find a way to lower the standard of equipment to T2 and make T4 the really special stuff.  This will not happen of course, because again, the Vet corps don't produce 20 T4 items anymore, they produce 300  T4 items at a time, and have been hording equipment for months if not years.

we didn't take kara after Dana, we took Initia, and you had nothing to do with that.  We took initia because BKK couldn't hold there OP with a 3 man corp.  again you had nothing to do with it   nice try though.

I think RAWR would beg to differ.  Secondly we didn't get pulled into M2Ss war.  We were constantly attacked by lemon and what is now PHM/Police, after playing the game for less than a month.  I forgive you for not knowing all this, because this all happened after your temper tantrum at the devs.  Lemon who repeatedly stated that he didn't attack newb corps, proceeded to take 3 STC outposts: Dana, Initia, and Kara.  This all happened because Lemon and Eharmony could not win against M2S/Hun or RG without the rest of the CIR fleet.  So they picked targets that would be easy to kill.  Anyone else see a pattern here? 

That being said, STC wanted fights, we wanted PVP, we were in it for the long run.  Most new corps are not this resilient, plus, we came in when the player population was much higher, so there was more things for us to do.  But please, dump the "holier than thou" BS.  You and Dom alliance banner of "we are mercenaries" was a very thin veil to cover you guys doing whatever the hell you wanted to, to whomever you wanted too.  And after, you just claim, "Oh we were paid".  At least 62nd had the balls to say "we are pirates, deal with it".

And yes, we do need to be a little bit nicer to new players, and new corps.  That is the only way this game will grow.  I'm not saying don't attack new corps or new players, but I am saying don't grind them out of the game.  there is a difference.

@Ville  Just because you change your name and flag, doesn't make you different.  Enron did the same thing, they are now called EOG resources.  Their simple name change is considered one of the greatest marketing stunts in history.  It doesn't, however, change the past.  Nice try though

If there is a complete wipe, i'm not coming back.  I can understand why they would consider it and no hard feelings on my part, but that would be the end for me.  I have invested too much money and time to start over.

Again, I have to disagree.  If that were true, more people would be fighting over them.  And the missions really arn't worth it once you have made enough money/research/PVP ammo.  They need to be worth something to the corp, not an individual.  The only thing that is worth getting from SAP loot any more is Cortexes and Officer beacons.

It seems to me, that the best thing for the game would be to just remove Epri from gamma, and make it a Beta only material.  This would make betas critically important for production. If Epri is only on Beta, it would force miners to mine Epri where they could be attacked.  This simple change would cause:

1) Epri prices up to where they should be. 

2) Encourage PVP, because miners are now vulnerable again, and must be defended or risk being killed.

3) Force more thought into logistics, because now not only do you have to mine the Epri on Beta, but now you have to get it off of Beta, to either Alpha or Gamma

4) Make Betas vital to a corp and thus worth defending or attacking.

This simple change would make roams viable again, because now you HAVE to defend your miners and Beta OP.  if you dont, your Epri supply gets cut off.  and the Roamers get to kill your miners.

And if you wanted to be really cruel, make Noralgis a beta only plant.  This would stop miners from planting 50+ pot farms, with no risk of losing it.  This would also cause the Norg prices to go back to where they should be, because now you cant harvest 10+ million every day inside your Fortress of Solitude A.K.A The Taj Mastuart.

This would also have the added benefit of making T2 and T3 gear more viable because T4 gear is more expensive and harder to get/produce.

Some of the Best memories i have of this game, are from the early days of STC when we had to Ninja mine Epri off of Hostile Betas, that *** was terrifying.

At this point the steam launch is an all in situation.  If more people don't sub, the game dies.  if they do, it will succeed.  From a business standpoint, they have to develop the mechanics for a larger audience.  Interference, gamma bases, etc etc.  All of this must be developed and directed towards a large number of people.

According to valve, in may 2010, there were 20 million unique active accounts on steam (This number has only gotten bigger in the last 3 years, I just couldn't find the statistics for the current year) .  Hypothetically, lets say .1% try perp,  and lets say 25% of those who try it, sub.  .001 x 20,000,000 is 20K people.  25% of those people sub.  That's an influx of 5000 players.  Now, those numbers are hypothetical.  But they are also very reasonable.  This game needs to be designed with those kind of numbers in mind.  Because if its not, and those players do come, they game will be far more broken when the players show up, then it is now.  And if the players don't come, well you all know what will happen then.  We are currently in an "All or nothing" situation.  Because of that, the design of the game has to be towards larger numbers of players.

@homer

10K players is a stupidly large number of players?  I think you are grossly underestimating the number of people that play games.  There are currently 250K people playing Dota 2 RIGHT NOW (thats not total players, thats players currently playing, at this very moment).  There are 45K players playing TF2 RIGHT NOW.  I understand this game is not a AAA title, but 10K players is not a stupidly large number of players.  And this game is going to get a HUGE jump start in the advertising sector when it launches on steam (seeing how there was no advertising to begin with).  Think about how many people came into the game when RPS started to do its articles.  not to mention  the EX perp players that will come back to the game when the population grows.

I know you haven't promised anything yet (if its even possible), and you have A LOT on your plate already. But I just want to say thank you.  you guys are some of the most responsive game DEV's of any game that I have ever played.  So again thanks for all your hard work.

So if im wrong ville what is

Mass wasting?  yes water CAN play a part in it but NOT ALWAYS. 

Not from google,  From a book I had to read for my geo physics class.
if you'd like to read the book I still have the PDF, and will gladly email it to you?  in most cases yes, water plays a huge part in erosion.

but as I stated before WATER IS NOT THE ONLY CAUSE OF EROSION

technically speaking, if a planet has an atmosphere it has wind.  And since we have fog on Nia, there is an atmosphere, so there must be wind.  And to further this point,  if there is enough water vapor to form fog, then there is enough vapor to form higher altitude clouds which would then generate rain.

Erosion is not limited to just water.  Erosion can happen from ice, glaciers, snow, wind, water, gravity, and tectonic shift.  So no, erosion does not only happen from rain.

you apparently don't have time to make a new killboard, but you have plenty of time to *** about it on the forums?

Thank you for all your hard work!!  Yay for 6 month sell orders!!