Makes me laugh how some cant get their head out of the "you versus me" basic way of thinking. Yeah i was talking about CIR, and Dalmont too (if hes honest enough he will confirm). But i was moreso talking about how peoples should shut up when they dont have a clue, and accusation can hurt peoples. Is it clear for you now?

I give you a life lesson for free, now back to your basement, think twice before you write....

Concepts like:

*Dont charge peoples without proofs (we all know who you were refering to, even if not named )

*You dont have a friggin clue of what is happening, i dont like assumptions popped out of someone arse in most cases.

*Principle of presumed innocent, not guilty.

*In most case those kind of behaviors are hurting peoples, and are made by kiddies that dont have lived many things. In some dark periods of our human history, those kinds of behavior led peoples to death. Is it clear enough now why it could upset peoples?

Seriously guys its serious matter about laws and possible punishments. Dont make poor assumptions because you think you know *** about the game and its players, because you obviously dont. I could be what your referring to, but its almost certainly not, so just dont do that thx.

No *** Sherlock; you learned me something today!

Contact!  Like the movie with Jodie Foster?   Liked this one.

Yeah i got it Inda. Your right in saying that "whiners" altogether are the "collective" mind of the player population, even more so with so low pop. But i just wanted to say to the "collective":  be patient guys. Dont scream like it was a slaughter. When i see some guys beginning their post by "now that 2/3 days have passed and im calmed down"...  Really?  Seriously man? A bad implementation in a game you play made you upset for several days? Its just a game some take it real to serious imo.  And all it does is putting PRESSURE on the gamedesigning devs, cause they have less and less FREEDOM of acting because of the OVERREACTING of some (not all whine, peoples that feel its cool in majority dont post on forums,dont go on irc etc..), that imo dont represent FOR SURE the majority of players.

So with less and less freedom, the devs make small and trivial implementations, and the game stagnate, and the players are bored and leave (or let their account running thats not the point).

I wont search the quote for the record, but theres (almost) only one thing that i agreed with binary:  "The game started to suck when devs begun to listen too much to their playerbase, instead of following their vision at all costs." Something like that.  What you made for EULA enforcement (we will bend but wont break, as some wise dev said) you should do it for gamedesign too!  Players dont have the far stretched vision of the future gameplay. Just you have it!!

Some think they are at the helm of the ship designwise. You are just players. You just give feedback.

The idea of outpost owner corp only that can set probes looks good to me. You limit them to the outpost area. We got islands split in several areas, why not use them? I dont see any problem with this kind of fix ? With limited number too.  Since an outpost can only have one owner, there will be a fixed maximum number of probes per area/island/world...  Its interesting too for the devs with technical implementation and lag.  Reinforce the alliance interest of owning all the OP of an island, so they can "lock it" scouting wise..  Can create funny "one island" war too.  Is a good beginning for PBS bigger than probes.

For example: a beta 1 island has the 3 outposts owned by corps in the same alliance= island scouted and safe. You should even add probe detection sharing for future alliance features...

Example 2:  A beta 2 island has 2 OP owned by ennemies. In that case TP scouting is useless since each corp can only scout its TP.  Then the corps will decide to put their probes in tactical places for disrupting ennemy= more pvp.

You guys need to remember that PBS will add an incentive to own the TERRITORY. Not just defend OP and scout for safety. Cause when there will be bigger/more expensive PBS, one corps if big roam on its island will think twice before "everyone dockup/log out"  It will be more "defend our stuff guys!" 

Probes themselves are fine like they are. You want to balance the item itself.  Its the availability/number/geographical disposition that needs tweaking imo.

And why not limit probe to corp owned area?  We have each island cut into several area, lets make use of them?
So you limit number with new extension, then you limit geographical placement by areas. That way a single corp could NOT scout every TP from its island, so for an island to be locked down must have whole corps of islands in the same alliance.  I can imagine too "walls" of probes at frontiers between two island areas...

This solution would solve everything:  no more aggressive use of probes.  Not more probes spamming.  No more "every TP locked by one corp"

Im training hard to be someday a successful troll

Why didnt they remove the aids drop?  Really good question that id like to be answered by a dev...   Seriously, they down the server for that only matter right?  What did they had to remove/change about new year event, except aids drop?  So they reset the server for 15mn, but nothing changed by my point of view

Btw i think they saw an increase of activity and correlated it to aids drop...  well i dont think so.  Just give us the damw POS, even buggy, even rushed, even unbalanced!!    We will do it, like in several other indie sandboxy mmos:  we will stay and help make it fonctional.

But no comm+ no real design evolution (i mean glider... ok.  But like George Clooney says:  What else??)   IMO its just a poor gamedesign decision that has been taken to bypass the multitile engine limitation.  Tbh i didnt even seen one scarab ingame.  But still my complaint is valid.  You buy yourselves time with little content very hard to get =  grind your teeth on the ground until we advance with the real meal?   That kind of behavior wont help forever.

  I dunno where is the development bottleneck with POS, if its modelling (im almost sure its not); programmation? maybe but i dont see why.  Is it gameplay/gamedesign? Certainly it is.  Because we can all agree, a real RTS implementation in a persistent world is HARD to achieve. Look at mortal and territory control. Thats not perfect far from it. But at least they made the "real meal" BEFORE they put all the salt and pepper (content). That will buy them sooo many time before players starts to get bored again.  Glider will buy you what?  The time to grind the research for the big alliances, and after what?  Things will be as they were before, just with a bigger hauler ingame.  That all folks!

IMO you should give max priority to POS, meaning only the devs that cannot work on pos atm should work on something else. No arty, no content adding, just pos. Once we have the basic buildings, player housing/storage, tturret towers, aoe bonus towers, so much diversity and fun we can have. But i understand its really hard to think about all the exploits, bugs, illogisms that could appear with such a complex system implemented in a mmo persistent world...

Dont ask the baker for milk.  Instead enjoy the tasty bread. You will hopefully sooner than later taste the good milk.

I tried to fit 6 T4 hardeners with a T4 med shield on my gropho mk2 for the lulz. Ok ok i got 0.036 AP/HP, with a T4 evasive. Doing the maths i found the best of the best AP/HP is like 0.03, with commander mods. But even with very good (nearly maxxed) fitting skills in every kind of mods, your really, really limited in what else you fit. Mostly proc is the bottleneck. Maybe a T4 injector, something like that but in no way 5 med drainers. So you got a perfect tank, you can take so much pain but eh, except in very special situations, nobody gives a *** about someone unkillable but that cannot harm in any way the ennemies. They just stop targeting you once they see your harmless. 2 eccm, 3 or 4 hardeners and 5 med drainers is another story, you lose many AP/HP but if you got prey to feed i guess your a pita.  All this untested in real pvp situation obviously. So its just speculations and mental fapping in front of beautiful numbers

I wander in a gropho mk2 since some time now.  I know what im talking about. Before sparks patch, i was a blue fighter using a mesmer. So i know at least 2/3 of the "so called" problem.  And i tell you this;  there is no balance problem. Gropho is strong in its role, that is different from a mesmer and a seth.

What do you want?  All the same bots, with the same bonuses doing the same *** things?  I mean,  sandbox... diversity... choices... Id like to now your EP pool Calio, just to know how much "It's as simple as that" must be taken to the letter.

Come and *** my gropho 1v1. With a mesmer, or with a seth. Result is far from evident, in fact no one would be able to tell who win, even with same EP pool and fitting tech level.  So do you call this balanced?  Yes it is.  Its as simple as that.

You dont think at what your doing. Its the stronger attack against a sandbox game, trying to remove slowly diversity and specializations by QQing for more mainstream ***. Your theory of "why this one got this and that one got that" works in mariokart, not in perp sorry. And despite all the "insight" and "knowledge" some of you think they got about this game...  just leave my gropho alone! Leave her alone!  *said by a hair discolored emo b1tch filming under his cover*