I would definetly want to have ownership of the outposts when they go to denied access. It will make roaming and ninja mining more difficult, since the only safe place will be the public outpost, and putting a few combat bots there on off tz would make even that hard to use.

Ldemobs are LOS affected on Dev server already, and unique modules.

As well there are plans for a Demob resist extension, 1% /lvl, reducing demob extension bonus from 3% to 2% and increasing S-demob base effect by 10%

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Hi, I'd be greatly interested to join, and I've registered to your forum already, but since it has apparently moved to a new domain is it necessary to register again? Many thanks.

Again, nobody said anything about making them all the same, nor about making the Seth "uber".  What is being indicated by the data is that the Gropho has significant advantages over both the Mesmer and the Seth.

    The AP issue should be glaring to everyone, and no one can deny the Gropho's advantage there.  Any addition of modules increase the AP usage on the Gropho, but that also is the case with the Seth and Mesmer, and they are already starting with a negative net regen.

    The other 3 issues that stand out, is that as the longest range heavy mech, it probably should be the slowest.  Looking at all the other Pelistal bots and mechs, you find that all of them are slower than the comparable Thelodica and Nuimqol bots/mechs.

    Either that, or it should keep its speed and have it's range reduced further.  This would be consistant with the other bots and mechs (excepting the waspish, which I wll leave for another to show how insanely OP t can be).

    Thirdly, the fact that the Seth has a shield bonus, which no other Thelodica bot has, and that all other Thelodica bots/mechs have either an AP regen bonus or a resist bonus, plus lacking the AP regen to handle a shield tank, should be a clear indication of an issue.

    EDIT:  Again, on the damage issue, many here convienently forget that missiles go over landscape features that turrets do not.  Therefore, as far as actual applied DPS, the Gropho probably has a higher rate of actual delivered DPS,, with fewer shots hitting landscape features. Whereas the Seth does have a significanly higher DPS, as noted in the original post, over a 800 m range, the likelyhood of getting a clear shot can be significantly reduced, thus "balancing" it's DPS potential.

But right now? Lolno. What we are right now is a bunch of duders that don't mind engaging a superior force and exploding because we enjoy fighting.