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For those forum warriors who don't log in, can see how the "Projection of Power" and "Unlimited Mobility" worked against about 3 guys who decided to start playing and hitting saps...

Your right Gunner, the DEV's should stop fixing any bugs or issues that come up. Just leave the game the way it was at launch.... Really?

And if reinforce timers on structures that had been reinforced were being changed while in reinforce. It should be fixed.

Awesome! I think....

You risk losing your bot on Beta. You risk losing infinitely more on Gamma, depending on how much you put into it...

Its not the only way to get to an outpost. But it is the only way to get to an outpost that doesn't take a half an hour. If this game becomes about who wants to spend the most time walking and dropping teleports. Then this game is dead where it stands.... Forcing players to spend 30 minutes traveling everytime they want to have a chance of pvp, and 30 minutes traveling back to where you came from afterwards is ***. And it is poor game design.

Shouldn't have to choose between mining or pvping. I should be able to do both.

Just want to say that a SpT cooldown will effectively kill all pvp. It may make it easier for beta outposts to be taken, but all it takes currently is more than 4 guys working together to accomplish that anyway. Instead of sparking for a chance to actually partake in some pvp, it will now be reserved for sap defense only. Everyone will turtle in gamma behind their walls and only come out to defend saps.

And you sure as hell shouldn't have a spark cooldown longer than your next intrusion time. You should always have the ability to defend your own sap.

The biggest thing I don't like about the spark cooldown is it seriously affects my ability to enjoy the game to its fullest. I enjoy the indy carebear side of the game as well as the pvp side. And a cooldown will penalize me and make me decide between using my spark for indy purposes or pvp purposes. Now I cant go run missions or check markets or buy things without negatively affecting my chance for getting to pvp. With a cooldown, I now have to decide each night if I wanna carebear or if I want to pvp.

I shouldn't be penalized for trying to enjoy all this game has to offer. While someone who just wants to pvp or  just wants to carebear, isnt nearly as affected.

Just taking this time to state that a 10 min pvp flag cooldown is a good compromise.

And again, you may as well get rid of spark teleport as bloodsparking to an alpha 2 and interzoning would then be the standard method of travel. Is that what we are trying to accomplish? Can't say I see the point.

And the pvp flag is the reason this 'hot boxing" doesn't actually happen....

At that point you may as well remove it from game completely and go back to only bloodspark.

If you put a cooldown on sparks no one will ever leave their gamma island. Thus killing all pvp except for blobbing a critical sap defence. There will be less movemen and less pvp.

No, I made a case that no cooldown is needed period. Bot or otherwise. Forcing people to wait to play this game is a bad idea. Especially since you cant see what items you have in a gamma terminal until you spark there.

You make an argument that a timer can be implemented on bot selection. But as you don't play, you have no argument as to why it is needed other than the personal agenda of your whining allies. Making major game changes completely based on the uninformed vocal minority is also a bad idea.

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This whole spark issue to me, is only a problem, with current population and political climate. And there is no point in tailoring critical game mechanics to this current population and climate.

It is funny that you guys keep saying that we have unlimited sparks and combats toons set to all outposts. Personnaly I have one spark on the blue islands and one for the red islands. That's it. And most of the people I know are similarly set up. So if something happens at that one spark location, then great. But more often than not, I am driving my happy *** from my nearest spark location to wherever the action is. As is most of my corp.

And to me that is the intention of the spark teleport. Not to be able to go everywhere instantly, but to have a few bases of operation scattered around the game to prevent you from having to trek across the world to do anything. By installing a cooldown, you reverse the point of spark teleport in general.

Now, the problem lies in the fact that one Powerbloc has control of most outposts. And that our enemies are weak and lack the stomach for the fight. So when they see 2 people undock at an outpost or inside the station, they assume everyone is just a spark away. When in reality this is rarely the case. To me, this is part of strategy of warfare. Is this their stronghold? Do they all have sparks here? Or maybe we find a lesser used station that few of the enemy have sparks at. But instead of putting some alts inside stations to monitor enemy activity, or keep track of who sparks in during possible engagements. It is much easier to just start a forum topic begging for a change to game mechanics.

Adding a cooldown to spark teleport would hinder the current powerbloc from defending all their outposts, but probably not enough to matter much. It would make people think twice before sparking to engage in PVP. But is this really what we are trying to achieve? Having people afraid to spark to PVP because there may be Better/bigger/ more important pvp elsewhere? I am not in favor of a mechanic that will reduce peoples inclination to PVP. That is already a big enough problem as it is, without making it worse... The real problem is that STC has more active players than any corporation in game atm. It will always be hard for a few people to wage war against a numerically superior force.

Now, if a corp only had 1 or 2 outposts, the spark cooldown wouldn't do much to help the "blob" you all speak of. Chances are the sap times would be different enough to allow everyone in that corp to be able to spark to both outpost defences when needed.
Now, if a corp (12/62, PHM)doesn't have any outposts  that need to be defended, the spark cooldown has no effect on them. As they are walking from whatever rock they are crawling out of. And have no need to be able to defend anything. So if I don't have an outpost or gamma base to protect, then I would be all for this cooldown mechanic as well.

But to me the biggest problem with this whole idea, is that when I spark over to a beta outpost on the slim chance of getting some great pvp action, and my enemy decides to blueball me and runs away.  I have to spend the next 45 minutes driving 3 toons across the game world from Dom back to imidero. Or I can log out of perp and go play some other game while I wait for my cooldown to expire. Is this also what we are trying to accomplish?

This game already requires significant amounts of time to gather resources, manufacture, make NIC. Why do I now have to be forced to spend 45 minutes walking across the world everytime I want to try and PVP. I just don't see how this would do anything other than make the game more tedious.

Bad Idea -1