Fine as is. No need to change it.

Um No

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You will never get a good answer to your question Anni. What you will get is the "carebear group" aka TOG (no offense to toggies) that have alot of members or should I say beta accounts that will never make a sustained venture to beta for ANY reason. Their play style doesn't allow for true RISK. They and many players like them are here for the carebear portion of the game. They don't want to RISK anything yet want to reap alot of the reward for what they do. This group will never be satisfied unless they have all the same benefits of beta dwellers without the RISK.

The carebear style of play is a valid style however you will find there is always a massive seperation between them and the Beta/PVP dwellers, regardless of what sandbox mmo game is being played. Carebears by nature don't enjoy risking their items. They don't enjoy conflict (unless its market pvp). They don't get that little rush of adrenalin right as a fight starts. Anything that even slightly gives an advantage to the PVP/Beta dweller side is viewed as a crime by most of the "carebear" group. Anything that takes away from the "easy life" of alpha is a sin. There is no middle ground for the majority of "carebears". It is all reward and no RISK.

The beta/PVP group can have the exact opposite extremes however these extremists are a small minority of this group. Most beta players are willing to except compromise to improve all aspects of the game as they realize that there has to be some "carebears" somewhere to make them items or supply them with some occassional tears. Most of us beta/PVP players understand there must be sacrifices to drive our style of play and we accept them (most of the time!!!). I have yet to see anyone screaming about the change to intrusion visibilty for example. Why? It is a change (in my opinion) that will deliver more surprise pvp and less "Oh crap! I just jumped on Alsbale and Brightstone has an active intrusion. Get the boys ready!!!!". This change encourages active scouting by hostile forces to identify active intrusions. It simply means-- More people on beta... Good for pvp!

Long story short Anni-- Don't hold your breath for an answer. There aren't many people that don't belong to one group or the other......

It's not about nerfing. It is about pointing out the possible side effects to the complaining and hissy fits (from multiple people)being acted on. Actions often have unintended consequences. People often turn a blind eye away from areas that they reap massive rewards from.

Here is the reality of this MINOR change as stated by Atticus:

"If losing 8 or 9% of your recycling ability is a game breaker for a producer/manufacturer, you're either in the wrong profession or wrong game."

Devs already gave a solution..... Recycle on Beta..........

soooooo.. What is needed to be an uber production toon and maximize recycling:

Massive production skills-- approx 250k ep
Be maxed in Recycle. approx 40k ep
Have an outpost with high enough stability to have lvl 4 recycling
Be able to defend your outpost to keep stability.
Grind high relations.....

Seems like a ton of effort needs to go into maximizing recycling for production purposes. If you do all of the things above and a few others I am sure I left out, you should get a better reward then someone who doesn't have to risk/put effort into it.

Anni-- You are attacking the fact that people can recycle for more then they can build an item for. This takes a maxed production toon to do it. What really troubles me about your stance on the issue is this:

I have not seen a forum thread where you denounce the refining skill. With very little investment of EP and the use of a level 2 refinery you get over 100% yield.

Be careful what you ask for. It just may get you something you didn't want.

OH NOES!!!!!

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!

issue with the patch most likely.

Maybe.................

and it appears that it isn't just Tellesis thats broke!

Looks good so far!

Just keep making progress!!!!!!!

The idea of an instanced PVP area needs to die in a fire...........

You know the NEX ship is sinking when their resident troll is running away!

GL Obi Wan!

http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/post/55827/#p55827

Figured I would leave this here as you do talk about some of your corp's history.