I can answer that question!!!  Here's a hyperlink to a chart even!

http://www.skin-whitening-product.com/s … chart.html

Using this chart you can determine your tone just by holding your hand near your screen.  This will assist you in selecting correct cosmetic products that complement your natural beauty.

This appeals to my peeping tom side.

I feel so out of place among all you fugly avatar rolling people.

Dude, your chin!

I admit I'm in the same MMO rut that everyone else is in.  I literally can't think of a way to make an MMO without some form or grinding being a part of it.  I'm sure someone will eventually develop a revolutionary new formula that will fundamentally change how MMOs all are someday.  We're not there yet though.  In the meantime, we do have a lot of good games, but they have a similar "grind to get there" experience that is rather painful at times.  I like there being risk associated with the stuff I do so if that aspect is changed in any game, I'm okay with it.  There should be a reasonably safe place I can stand around doing nothing but chatting up friends though...terminals...docked...laying naked outside of the auction house...at Haven's bank...you get the idea.

PvP should absolutely not be the only place where the fun is at.  However players working together to do something whether it's against other players or not...that's what I'm getting at.  Give me the tools I need to get some people together for a laugh and a good time and we'll do most of the rest.  Perp's corps are a fine example, the ones that totally internalize production and consumption are driving their players by giving them "missions" and the associated rewards.  While all those corps are doomed to fail when central economic management reaches a point of inefficiency, they're good stuff on a small scale and work as an example.  The supply chain is totally internal and player-driven.

I forgot to mention when I was giving Arga a hard time over Second Life....thanks for going live with the radio station.  It takes effort, time, energy, and so forth to do this stuff for the community and it doesn't go unnoticed.

Yeah Arga, all you get are two lines...and I'm not leaving anyway.  You will be disappointed to know that my minimalistic activities will continue to be a thorn in your side for the forseeable future.

Yes, repack and redeploy would be teh hawtness!

Because some people want to do something that is a challenge but doesn't involve real players on the other side.  Believe it or not, some of us feel that PvP is a waste of effort and no amount of incentive can sway that opinion.  Consider the desolation of PvP areas in that other game and you'll understand the lack of broad appeal that it holds.

Or a "Fast Research Island" for dedicated elite small corps that hunt smartly.

No offence, but 25 man raids turn into efforts in kitten herding, even when you're -not- slumming it with PUGs.  And doing it for six hours at a time?  Personally, I'd rather drop a deuce or maybe go get roaring drunk than deal with those after max level gear grinds.

Of course PvP is weak at the moment.  It's weak because it has somewhat limited appeal.  (see above, think empty nullsec)  That's probably not going to really change much as alpha-huggers will far outnumber beta residents if the player distribution in other games is an example of the general MMO population distribution.  I assert that such is the case.

+1 to this!

I thik he trademarked "later" not "Later" but if you're going to be kinky about it and use a capital L, then have the nerve to omit the underline...meh, who am I to argue that?

NOOOOOO!!!!  ... Well, okay sure.

Anyway, some great ideas in this thread!  I'd love to see the planet itself has some influence on the outcome of events.  In many cases, real battles have been won and lost thanks to the influence of weather.  I'm looking at your Russian invasion attempts, Napoleon and that "other guy" who used to live Germany.