Our server has been highly polarized for a while. (M2S’ infinite cache vs the server? )The main difference between now and back then is that less people are here due to boredom in the game. The entities we had before are still here, mostly skeletons of their former size, but still around no less. The lack of tangible objectivity is what is making people bored and not really care, else we'd still have people logging in. There'd be heaps of targets if you theoretically allied with half the server anyway, but that's not really evident as half of barely any people is still barely any people.

If big alliances are such a problem, then why doesn't 62nd and M2S break up and start shooting everyone instead of crucifying others that do it? Why can't you practice what you preach in such a "dire" time for the game? 62nd did it before and looking at their recent activity in comparison to "Novablob", they could easily have "fair" fights if they took the theoretical high road.

The problem is not coming from the players though, it's coming from the lack of players and that stems from a game that's not entertaining them enough to stay. It's only all the more evident because of the polarization of ideals and lack of things for corps to want to stand alone for and take for themself. All this talk of alliances killing the game is really just a cover for the real problem and it's twofold as it's also a reason for the alliances to not break up as there's no point other than speculation that it will magically make the game more fun and everyone will just come rushing back because a handful of corps are playing together.

My simple answer to people that are anti-undercut has always been that it's just business. The point of the minimal undercut is to be the lowest/lower price and make the sale, as people will pretty much always buy the lowest price item no matter how small the margin is. The more I undercut however, the more profit I'm losing. If I'm doing a fire sale because I know something in game is going to happen or change, sure, I might sell drastically lower. But if I intend to make max profit, I'll charge as much as I can get away with. This is capitolism

The game needs more content, that's about all there is to it. Until we have more definitive tools to 'create empires', PvP will die. It's already starting to turn in to a hissy fit of uselessness. Group A fights Group B and nothing is accomplished aside flaming and trolling both ways. Eventually, those fun roams are going to be related to nothing more than petty ego inflation and people will wander off to do more meaningful things with their time. We're already seeing this. People fight in game, then they fight in chat, followed by the thread trolling the next day after and nothing happens of any significance in game. Everything is it's same old static self, minus a few bots and modules, with someone left wondering what the hell is the point of putting up with all the *** talking just to see it happen all over again the next day with little variance?

All the balances, the nerfs, the patches, the grudges, the wars; They mean nothing. The general setting of the community has turned from respectable and growing, to a smaller group left with nothing but petty squabbling over every fight, chat and thread. This game needs those end game territorial systems in place to quell the bordeom before this community basically consumes itself and it needs them yesterday.

The amount of ammo you get is pretty crap now, I was saying that to someone else too. But it's still not inaccessible or difficult to get. You're at no more a disadvantage than the next person, so that's a moot point.

But I do agree, missions should offer a little bit more ammo. Perhaps when we see more of those missions revamps we'll be in luck.

Pretty much, the game needs balance. It needs a bit of each facet to make it appealing to a broader scope of players so that we can have more dynamics in the game. Farmers, Miners, Builders, PvPer's, take one element out of that list and someone else will have to do it anyway. You need farmers to get research done, miners for resources, builders to put it together, pvpers to blow it up and do it all over again.

That's a bet that will lose you a pile of money my friend.

It's pretty obvious that the people still in game, playing, are having fun. Else they wouldn't be playing, now would they? How does that expunge the deficit that's been building up of online players? Numbers are getting low again because the game's fine? People who quit and wander off aren't going to be as vocal at all, in fact, I'm sure they'll just pack up their *** and leave. If you're still having fun camping stations and ganking the loaners you find, then all the power to you. But for the rest of the people that have pretty much put this game on the back burner, I think it's time to start paying attention to them.

Or you can make excuses for why people are quitting and watch all your competition walk out. I mean, that's cool too I guess. Whatever floats your boat.

Who knows if that will even help. They need more than just a revamp to intrusions. People aren't leaving because of how it's setup now. People are leaving because they're running out of things to do and fight for. Changing how we cap outposts in to a more active and time consuming method is going to kill this game. It will turn OP holding in to an annoying chore. If they release it however with changes to the incentives to holding one, then it just may be what brings the game to life again. The critical flaw in this game is that there's not enough to do. You either Farm (NPC/Arti), Mine or Roam.

There's very little to do in the way of empire building and real time objectives. Everything feels incredibly static and mundane once you've been around long enough. Once we actually get terraforming and base building with added weight to the effects of smaller scale PvP, then we'll be having fun.

... or I'll just be playing Diablo 3 if that release before this game changes. All in all though, funny enough, the one thing they did right is make it so you can get EP without logging in every other day to skill up. So I'll probably remain subbed even if I dont play for a few months.

Guess I did miss that, my bad.

You can't really sit in greens either and use LOS purely. NPC's will keep coming at you until a certain range then leash back to their spawn. You still have to kite them out of their spawn area and do enough DPS to kill them before they return to their spawn after they leash. It's usually no problem, but some of the tanked 5th tier mechs/HM's are a bit more tricky to kill in one pull. Chances are if you pull them, their buds will follow in staggered suit too. So if you dont kill them before they leash back, you can't really come out of cover and chase them as their other friends will still be coming at you at random intervals. I used to like LOS tanking and in some spots it can work, especially for new players. But unless you find a spawn sitting in a basin that they can't get out of before they leash, kiting seems to be a heck of a lot easier. Even still, I'd be hesitant not pulling them out of their spawn to kill them. If there's EWAR in the spawn that repops while you're looting, you'll likely be demobbed and butt-humped.

Does LOS really matter that much when the non-green bots can just fit LFW/range and never get in range of their targets? That's what I do with my PvE fits anyway. When I feel lazy and want to farm faster, I equip the short range missiles for more dmg, but even then if I fit t4 extenders and launchers I dont need to be in range of mechs/hm's and can still smoke them from far off. There's also definitely a lot of wide open space around many spawns that I've seen, so kiting and avoiding hills that would otherwise block LOS seem moot if you choose a decent enough spawn to farm.

Diminishing returns on some modules would probably suit change better than just nerfing the module and changing the core values for everyone.