Safety of alpha and lack of beta incentives is TBH one of the primary reasons of game's gradual decline. I really don't understand players vouching for it, as if they are rooting for the ruin of Perpetuum.

Searching for artifacts =/= scanning for artifacts.

Oh, so you are just a troll with no argument to bring to the table and support your statements? No wonder you aren't going anywhere with your claims.

Oh, don't worry, if those ridiculous changes ever get pushed live, we'll change our fits and fleet composition accordingly. Not like we had to do it 5-6 times already in the past When the fits we saved the points for almost 10 months got nerfed right before we wanted to field them because of someone else's inability to 'adapt and overcome', we didn't whine for a year unlike certain individuals, but moved on to the next best alternative.

However, those changes will kill EWar as a class, and diminish EWar bots usage to 0 (except Demob Zenith, but it won't matter much considering that tanked DPS is going to be the king in this case). So, please handout the respecs for people who spent their valuable time and effort skilling up EWar to be able to do a single PvP role, and who will be left useless in EVERY area of the game because of your ingenious balance insights.

You, however, will find a new thing to whine about, believe it or not, after those changes are introduced.

Care to link anything that is not yours/Burial's/Merkle's/Lucian's whining?

Your 'educated opinion' is summed up in this article. You've shown the worth of your experience with all your recent fit suggestions in this thread (why are we even having this discussion? Oh right, because devs paid attention to yours 1 year long whining ). Outside of Lemon, Mongolia, Styx, Yoslin, Siddy and 5-6 other veteran guys, I really doubt anyone can even be referred as educated opinion of experience, especially when they are talking about their-dear-selves.

If you really think you are so good, why don't you show it on the battlefield or provide us with the proofs?

EWar bots with your proposed 'balanced' changes won't be able to do anything to stop DPS bots from killing them in a matter of seconds for being the glass-cannons as they are. LOS/masking/range don't matter in any way if there is a mech on your ***, you won't be able to stop it or delay it IN ANY WAY.

Basically, EWar pilots are pure PvP pilots. They ONLY thing they are useful for is PvP - their specialty is not needed in any other department of the game, not even ratting, because it is a lot more sufficient to bring an extra DPS bot. They can't farm, they can't make money, they are existing only by the support of others for the services they provide. If they don't have a miner account/DPS account, they cannot exist outside of corporation and outside of PvP - and I know quite a few people who only play a single dedicated EWar account. With your changes, by fitting 1-2 ECCM modules and putting 10-20k EP into ECCM skills, you want to render people who specced into this only role USELESS in the only field where they can do something.

It will basically destroy ANY need for those robots to be played by people and fielded in PvP, as they will be substituted by much better possible alternatives. IF those changes ever go live, free respecs must be handed out to accounts with skilled EWar, because they will be left useless in the ONLY area where they can have some use. And, EWar bots will also require a significant buff in some other area if they get nerfed EWar-wise, otherwise those bots will never be produced and bought and sold and fielded again. No new players will spec into EWar either, as when even veteran skills are going to be lackluster in the case of your suggested changes, newbie EWar pilots are just going to be a complete waste.

Also, EWar has NEVER been a problem - only several special people (or rather, a group of people) are rooting for those changes since a certain period of time. With that, devs also need to remember that on forums only a MINORITY of community is present (it is the same for the most games out there), and a MINORITY of that MINORITY is strongly trying to force these changes upon ALL OTHER players in-game. It is going to have huge repercussions if the bigger picture is actually taken into account - balance is only a small part of the question here, it is a question of gameplay, game design, and character development.

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Make detection/masking fokken DYNAMIC.

It can be next step in game evolution in regards to detection, starting from 1000 range on release, to dynamic radius range (what we have right now), to dynamic detection/masking.

For example, make certain plants influence your detection/masking, both increase and decrease different values. At least it would make sense to plant or destroy the plants in fights, it will create a lot more room for strategy and planning of big fights, roflstomp ambushes and so on. We have incubators for all kinds of plants, but they are hardly ever used for anything, because they don't have any value right now.

We have a ton of useless buildings on Beta too, why not make it so that some of them increase your masking or detection value when you are within/next to them? Like that Mount Yula in Novastrov that has a huge station on top of it, why not make it increase your detection value to observe the surrounding territory? Kinda makes sense logic-wise and adds some value to that location. Same goes for a lot of other buildings if being next to them increase robot's masking value, that can be used for hiding/ambushing/scouting. It would add varying geographical value to islands as well, as each island would be different in that regard due to current building locations.

Some other modules, like vector or cone detection (not sure if it possible; basically, detecting in a straight line (arbitrary let's say 500m wide and 3km long) or in a cone in front of the robot), but I'm not sure if the engine actually allows it. This would add more skill and variability in detection, as it would make backstabbing and hiding easier if you know the variables of enemy or friendly detection.

Other modules like massive increase in masking for long cooldown (like 30 sec for 180 sec cooldown?), would also add more dynamic elements to the detection/masking game, as well as could be used creatively in big fights or roams and ganks. Big cooldown allows it to be used EITHER for initiation OR escape, but not both at the same time. Escaping is even harder as masking doesn't reset the lock. At the same time this involves many other variables that need to be held in mind, such as speed, enemy position, enemy movement vector, terrain, ECMing for escape, etc etc - damn, that adds so much juice and skill to tactical and strategical planning if implemented right. Tweak current module values to allow and balance the implementation of these, and you are set.

Ideas like these for dynamic detection can be thrown at you in large quantities, if you guys only ask and actually care about it. This is something that would bring meta to the whole new level and add another layer of competition and skill.

GAm = sers bsns gaiz, stop troling omfk, r ur hands growin out of yer asss guyz?

Pls tak this topic cerealously father on. No troling or go injekt trolosilol in you veins.

Alternatively, you can ask Jelan to handle the forums, at least he gets the *** done.

Techies soon, inb4 feeding excuses.