its not the pit that's the issue jita its the turrets killing beacon mobs while you're trying to farm in the safety of your base

So apparently it's pretty easy for us to enable turrets shooting NPCs, given that:
1. NPCs would also attack turrets.
2. NPCs killed by turrets wouldn't drop loot.

Opinions?

Herpus Derpus wrote:

Illiathos wrote:

What I am going to be talking about today is the alpha-beta-gamma risk/reward balance.

When it comes to ratting, the robots dont do any explosion. As such, a guy like me with a bunch of accounts can easily and reliably do 3 star mech beacon. Yes, 3 star mech beacons. As such, i make 150-200 million nic and hour. This is game breaking and needs to be fixed. A note to take: i have no t4+ and my skills arent even that high.

You will have to give me a number breakdown  on that cause the numbers seem grossly exaggerated. How much plasma, how many modules, fragments.

I do have statistics about npc farming in high end fitted bots but they never reach near 150 millions.

Otherwise many things you mentioned are correct. The thing is that this game cant be balanced around a low player count it has to be balanced around bigger numbers. The paradigma that beta is needed for gamma is not true. It takes 10 minutes at max to move a fleet from alpha to a gamma base with little chance of anyone intercepting them.

I farm with 2 t4 fit seths, a logi, a remote sensor amp bot, and a nexus. I kill 3 stripe beacons really fast. I get a bunch of plasma, but most money comes from hitech kernels. Ive been soloing those beacons like a month ago and i calculated approx. 400-500 million profit in the timespan of 3 hours

Tonnik wrote:

DEV Zoom wrote:

Server will be down for about 15 minutes tomorrow on 2015-05-12, starting from 15:00 CEST/servertime (13:00 UTC).

We'll be deploying a few important fixes:

• Rework of sending terrain layer data, which should stop plant-related lag.

• Stop MPC turrets shooting targets that are hiding behind terrain.

• Fix for roaming NPCs not respawning on gamma.

Can we state clearly that if for some reason this 'don't shoot behind terrain' change can be abused in a way thats not intended that would be considered an exploit and should be reported ASAP.

Not to question your coding but since I've lost two bases to a change's unintended consequence in the past it might be prudent.

If it's any consolation to you, I reported the turret shooting terrain "feature".

We're entering internal testing&balancing phase in a few days so public testing is still a week or two out unfortunately.

Was thinking of coming back for a look but wanted to know if it was even worth it.

Last I heard Green got smashed by a balance patch gone wrong.

Is this still the case?

Syndic wrote:

Notice how it wasn't an exploit when homeboys were calling for poor unwashed cons to jump in Arkhes and go to montabis to sit on probes.

I will also add that no one from the partnership turned to the devs or the forums for help in dealing with the annoyance.