Nope, when Infestation (M2S + allies for any newbies reading this) and Domhalarn (CIR + allies) joined up together, our numbers roughly equalled those of Norhoop in the intrusions that I attended. I think one of the early morning intrusions we turned up to (Uria) we completely outnumbered them, when only HUN logged on to defend.

They seem to vacillate between threatening to quit and vowing to stay in game and grind as much as it takes to fight us, with more of the former than the latter until the other day. Which is why I phrased it as I did. "Bomb into oblivion" implies they defeated us beyond hope of recovery - actually we lost a squad when they made a suicide run with the contents of their corporate hangar. But if they are going to stay in the game and put up a fight, I'm glad to hear it. Win-win, as it were.

I don't actually know much about the other CEOs, but having seen how CIR operates previously I'm quite willing to believe that CIR leadership is suggesting the strategies and the other CEOs are just nodding and casting their "yes" vote.

This is where Styx thinks you lack ambition. I think you would be perfectly happy to dominate the server, but you don't want to come across as the evil empire. So you just waited for M2S to be the aggressor.

I'm happy to be corrected on this, I can actually believe that RG suggested it.

Hey Nid

Let's call it an ideological war with two major power blocs and a handful of independents.

On one hand, we have M2S who want pvp and don't care what we do (trolling, griefing, harassment etc) to get it. The one thing we will refrain from is deliberately trying to outnumber our enemies, because we see ourselves as highly skilled and well organised. While we care about the success of the Perpetuum we aren't going to spend all our time trying to make the server a better place for everyone. Because we're playing a game of survival of the fittest. As an example, this week we have camped F-Navy in their own outpost, causing many of them to post that they are quitting the game. Despite this, we don't see our role as instigators of 'interesting times' as detrimental to the server, whereas we do despise the blob mentality.

On the other hand we have Designated M2S Enemy of the Month. Formerly that was the Norhoop Alliance, who have now been replaced by the Soviet Novastrov alliance, headed by CIR. CIR's stated preference is for skirmishes, not intrusions, and by declaring that they would go to war with any corp that signed up to take their chosen outpost of Darnachov they pretty much guaranteed the course of the current conflict. Because, of course, that's exactly what M2S proceeded to do. CIR then instigated a NAP with the remains of the Norhoop Alliance which allows them to bring considerably more numbers to the field than M2S. They care more about projecting a morally just image than M2S, but are just as heavily into the metagame.

Since both sides consider the other's behaviour 'dishonourable' and not in the best interests of the game, the war is becoming one of survival, and will probably continue for a few weeks more.

I will be very interested to see how it turns out.

In addition to the power blocs we also have a handful of smaller 'pirate' corps such as 62nd, FOOM, nWAR who are not directly involved. In a way it's the smaller corps whose activity I'm most worried about, because their chosen pvp (roaming) isn't very rewarding at the moment, partly due to low game population, and partly due to lack of incentives for players to live on beta islands.

Just reiterating what's been said already - give outposts benefits for owning them. Then add in upkeep costs.

The intended benefit is the EC system...we just don't have it yet.

Should this tell you when an enemy agent is online?

And should adding agents to your friends list require them to accept your "friend" invite, thus reducing the use of the friends list for spying?

There is a reason that three pvp islands created three main powerblocs in the first few months of the game. If there had been two islands, two powerblocs would have been created.

A single island is the default self-sufficient political unit because it's defendable and scoutable, assuming you have sufficient active players. You cannot have competing corps actively controlling different outposts on the same island...or at least not for long. It's not a sustainable war for anyone, particularly given the lack of benefits outposts provide in comparison to the cost of defending them.

More outposts and less islands will just encourage political centralisation.

If you want to support smaller corps moving out to beta islands, you need to add more islands with single outposts.

I would love to have this.

But apparently this will require the devs completely hacking the UI. So we won't see it any time soon.

+1

I think it needs to be something that takes a short time to capture, so you're not sitting around waiting too long.

Anyway I support this idea, if it can be made to encourage small squad pvp. I like the timing Glimpse suggested for them being vulnerable for 1 hour every 22 hours.

Yeah, I mainly go to mmorpg.com for the games list because where else am I going to find out about new games? Except I wish they would include more filter categories, particularly ones for theme park vs sandbox, 2D vs 3D, browser vs separate client, FPS/RPG/RTS, FPV vs TPV etc, open world vs instanced.

I can't remember where I found Perpetuum...it was either mmorpg.com or via people I knew in Mortal Online.

I wouldn't ever use either their reviews or their forums as a basis to decide whether to play an MMO or not. But PO having a higher profile with them certainly wouldn't do any harm, whatever reservations people have about the quality of the journalism and the community.

Some of the columns are interesting - I really enjoyed Sanya Weathers, and was disappointed when she stopped writing for them.

I actually agree, this would be a nice feature.

But the one thing I didn't like in GW was the fact you couldn't identify who was drawing on the radar.

There was always some kid who thought *** were the last word in humour, and insisted on sharing this fact with the rest of the group. But you couldn't kick him if you didn't know who it was

I'm impressed too. Cookies for all devs.

Or perhaps they prefer beer?

Agreed.

It would also tell people not in a player corp who owns what. I have no idea why this information is not made available to them.

The increase for the 360 days sub is an extra 5 pence per day. And also since I already bought 365 day subs I don't really care. Next year I probably won't even remember this ever happened.

Edit: but reading the other posts, yeah, they shouldn't advertise an expansion as free if they put subs up on the basis of it...even if the cost is negligible.