Long range and short range ecm modules just like demob. Long range need los and short don't.

And tomorrow you won't get any kills at all. Because they won't have a chance if outnumbered. And they won't show up again. At least when they drop an armoured, you can drop one too and meet them somewhere and continue the fight.

Its not a big deal for STC because we are filthy rich. But newer corps won't have that same luxury.

So I just caught up with 100+ posts on this topic after a day off on the forums. So much to quote and respond too, but I just don't have the energy.....

Edit: And its still a bad change, the inability to teleport while flagged. We are back to safelogging being the best means of evading pursuit. That, or not engaging at all. Why someone having the ability to leave via teleport is any worse than someone having the ability to get there via teleport is beyond me.

Lol, that broken *** clock has been ticking for 2 years now... Someone should have that thing looked at..

Last I checked STC was you guys's only opponent.

Great post! If you need anything STC will help you out as well. Ninja mining epriton was one of the most fun activities I have ever had in perpetuum.

I don't mind this change mechanic wise really, but I do expect the end result to be less pvp. That's my only issue with it. When in doubt, people just wont flag up. IMO, the armored teleport really only ever gave people a false sense of security. You would feel good that if things went awry you had a CHANCE to get away. This would lead to groups flagging up and testing out the enemy defences knowing they had a chance to escape.

In actual practice it rarely worked out that way. More often than not the teleport beacon was never used to begin with. Anyone ever try and jump a fleet of 15 or 20 guys through 3 armored teleports? With 30 seconds in between jumps and a 3 minute warm up, you are never getting the majority of a fleet out safe with armored teles. It just almost never happens, and if it does, its usually something the other side did wrong allowing them to escape.

I would have much preferred to see a 60 sec wait time in between jumps or something along those lines instead. I guess we will see how this whole thing pans out.

PS: I would love to know the DEV's reasoning for this change if one would like to chime in...

I want appropriate action taken to the person that dropped that armoured tele... A price must be paid...

Actually, it seems the more I think about it. The more I kinda like trying this out. Its not like you can grief noobs on alpha with this or anything. So its really only an issue on beta and gamma. And tbh, giving people more information on where to likely find pvp seems like a great idea. More Pew!

And really if you keep harvesting noralgis in the same place as you were killed at before, then you probly deserve to lose another bot and have your crop burned to the ground....

I was thinking that this could be an issue showing who is hitting saps and who is defending their saps etc. But it really isn't any different than matching up the killboard with the intrusion list to find that same info out. If anything this is easier for new players to figure out.

Actually, I still maintain that beacon pits weren't the problem. It was rather the rate at which you could earn tokens that was the issue. Beacon pits were merely a side effect.

I love the new addition to the killboards personally. Its cool to see where these fights happen and give some context to the battle. Had this been in use back when there were static ore spawns I could maybe see more of an argument.

But if the whole premis of your "Rage" is that it is too much free intel. How is it any different than listing the island they were killed on? You still don't have to get in a bot and go scouting, you can tell what islands are active and which are not already.

The only real argument I see is that you can spoil someones long term logoff/gate camps if you see the same guy killing multiple people at a teleport many times over. But I'm not totally sure I am against that. Adds another sense of danger to the serial logoffski guy.

@Rage Blackout: I know your response to my post is that I know nothing. And that I should stop posting unless I am actually in agreement with you, I mean,contributing to the topic. But I'm bored and just want to be part of the group....

Lets see how this plays out...

I don't see how knowing whether it happened on the north teleport or at an outpost really makes much of a difference after 15 minutes.

Edit: And now we know that its not coincidence his name is Rage Blackout....

I saw what you did there. Gold like that shouldn't go unnoticed..