well i think the main problem is not that you run 2 or 3 trials with miners.

the only trial i always used was a compiler bot for the walls quite some time ago...

i personaly think the main problem would be solved if you restrict players that you can log in with 2 trial accounts from one computer.

i see no problem with gate scouts, i see no problem with a sequer as trial. i see no problem with spies.

the only problem i see is haven 4-10 miner trials expoiting resources.
things like these always start to become a problem when somebody throws reason out of the window or his advantage and a lot ppl just follow because they see their disadvantage if they dont do this as well.

trials are not ment for mass use. thats my opinion. do some smaller tasks with them is fine. most ppl pay two or more accounts so why not use one or two trials for minor (not miner) tasks.

so restrict that or just write it in the eula that this is not ok. and if ppl still go with it then hell lets ban them. why not.

but the more easy way wouls simply be to check how many accounts are running on one pc and check on login that there are not more then 2 trials active...

my 5 cents.

i am a blue pilot myself,

but these changes are comming anyway. and we started mining a lot of stermonit because our green island will no longer have that. of cource the thing with the new plants will still be a issue. but another thing may be to farm npcs and keep all the loot and recycle it after the patch... so you can still work a bit ahead.

but even if its not possible... its comming and its no big deal... you will know what you have to get first.

thats the way it is.. cry more...

sry i could not control myself...

how about we bring a patch that no resource ganthering is possible till then? sounds like a good idea...

well this discussion (or similar to this one) have been here a couple of times. we all agree that we would like to have a bunch of more bots.

but this is a lot of work. not only the concept to ballance it all but also building all the new models ans textures.

as much i would like to have this i have to agree that this is not top priority atm.

gamma/industry -> pve/alpha -> whatever -> maybe bots then ...

i have no problem if ppl use trial accounts for minor tasks. if it is not overdone like 10 sequer afk mining.

but having a hauler alt or afk mining from time to time is not a big issue. besides if ppl stay one of these trilas may become a real industry char one day... so its a gain.

and if even a dev seen no problem atm then i see no further need for a discussion.

do things in moderation and all is fine...

there is one reason why totaly free pvp without save zones does not work:

because its a computer game, and ppl tend to abuse anything they can get a hold on especially when it gives them an advantage, or just for just small minded ppl that think they are great when they killed someone who had not the slightest chance from the very beginning. epen ftw.

the problem is that with the limitation of a computer game the ppl who do this dont have to fear real consequences. in real life there will be the police and the court so few of the "criminals" will get away with this. in a computer game the players will find and have the option to overcome the save mecanics (see steve) where you just sacrifice some lov tec *** to blow up cargo ships with expensive loot. this works in a computer game. but would this be a real world then they will wake up in thier new clone in handcuffs... or will never be able to set foot in hisec space ever again.
but we are in a computer game. that restrictions are not there. so ppl will always find this and abuse it.

so it is the best to keep it seperated. if ppl dont want any pvp then let them be. leave them their save zones so they can be happy. you want pvp. leave these save zones...

if you want the freedom to do everything you want. im fine with that. but then you have to bring a system that your actions have lasting consquences. and i havent seen any such a system yet. besides if it would be possible then it will be either very hard to build or so hard for you griefers that you will cry even more once you have comited your first crime...

no more has to be said...

no thank you... gank somewere else or take the long road as everybody else.

and back to topic:
i dont think this will be a good idea. the reasons have already been named...

i think this is an important part.

its not a good idea to have all the important windows hidden from the start.
build a default ui and show that from the beginning. ppl can always change that if they like to.

first of all: i like these changes. the room for improvements for vets may be a bit small but i will not damn a system before i have not tested it. so in general good work here. more after we had some time on the testserver.

Q:
your graph in the blog shows factory, repair and recycle which all will close towards 100%.
how will this be with refining wich was not mentioned. atm we have efficiencys above 100%. for example 137%.
how will this work with the new system? will this be softcapped as well? will the refining yield go down? or how do you plan to ballance this with the new system?

sure you can. look at the last page under copyrights... "feel free to share"