I want to make one thing clear - Blue mech needs to lose their extra speed. All 3 factions now have a long range setup, and a short range setup. Yet apparently only blue should be given the extra speed needed to be able to actually put the short range setup to use.

No sane missile or laser user will be using their short range weapons in PvP. A missile user *might*, if the circumstances call for it, but only because they can switch through ammo type, and that won't be often. Any laser mech using LCL lasers will be a walking dead man.

Pros  - Has access to an agent ammo for increased range.

This isn't a pro, all weapon types have access to agent ammo for increased range.

You've calculated the tyrannos using +20% range agent ammo so you could write big numbers vs the kain which you calculated with only normal ammo. Seems highly biased in favour of trying to make the tyrannos look better than the kain by leaving out major factors.

20% for T4 launcher.

15% T4 range extender.

Here's what a blue mech pilot gets with level 10 sharpshooting, level 9 robotics, level 8 improved falloff.

Using 5.5-Gripler medium EM gun = 613m range + 108m falloff.

And here's the math for that:

310m * 1.30 * 1.15 * 1.15 * 1.15 = 613m optimal range
60m falloff * 1.45 * 1.24 = 108m falloff

Here are the base ranges for T4 medium weapons. For T4 medium launchers I will calculate the range of long range chemical missiles when fitted into a T4 medium launcher.

Medium T4 long range lasers = 350m + 100 falloff
Medium T4 long range EM guns = 310m + 60 falloff
Medium T4 launchers with long range missiles = 324m + 0 falloff

Lasers are quite clearly the range kings.

EM guns have overall more range than missiles, when you factor in skills that the missile bots do not get use from, such as the skill that boosts your falloff, and not to mention blue mechs falloff robot bonus, EM guns then begin to have significantly more range than missiles. A good skilled blue mech pilot will easily get their falloff to 100+m

So missiles have the shortest range now, and yet blue mechs retain being the fastest mechs which was only given to them in the first place to help them make up for their short range. Now that they have not only better range but also more speed than missile mechs, there's an imbalance.

Trolling is against the forum rules. Could a moderator please remove mammoths consecutive trolling posts?

Tyrannos may have a AP recharge bonus, but let's not forget, the tyrannos only has a 2000 ap max accumulator size. The artemis for example, has 3000 ap, that's 50% higher and equates to a 50% faster recharge rate. A highly trained tyrannos does get a faster AP recharge in the end, but only because of the tyrannos ap recharge bonus. I'm not saying that's a bad thing though, because AP is important.

The shield bonus on gropho is ridiculous, I agree. They should do away with shield bonus on all combat bots because they're forcing you to either use a shield, or have a wasted bonus. GG.

NIC will probably be worth a lot when they add base building and all the structures cost NIC to buy from the market.

Brought it up before, apparently it's somehow balanced that medium armor repairers are very inefficient compared to small armor repairers.