The line is for the Devs to decide and draw, not for 2-3 mouthbreathers that happened to visit their office or play in Closed Beta to decide for the Devs.

Notice how theres a few special snowflakes very quick to declare how anything except "their" way of playing  a sandbox game is an exploit.

NOBODY LIKES YOU ROVOC.

Except Gunner.

And me.

Yup, remove liquizit and HDT from Alpha and move them to Beta only.

In 2 years the current stockpiles might deplete enough for there to be a demand, but at least it's a start.

While it's laudable that you attempt to comprehend what I'm saying, rehashing my words to fit in with your faulty point of view is not.

Perpetuum needs a logical chain of progression.

Beta needs to be NOTICEABLY superior to Alpha to stimulate new players and new corporations to venture out there, or join established alliances, or make their own alliances. The current incentives are not enough, we've been saying this for YEARS and Zoom you have ignored it for years.

You can't have a game built around the apex income faucet being chinese farming or botting "low level mobs" in the "noob zone". You end up with all the vets taking over the "good" spawnpoints and the noobs end up with nothing anyway. Even better when the vets are running bots on those spawns.

If you can't have a good anti botting system, you need to remove static spawns from Alpha not in X months, but yesterday. And remove all the NIC injected into the game via millions of vendored plasma from botting for the last 3 months. Look at the plasma sell rates for the last 6 months, its absolutely gobsmacking ridiculous what you're allowing to happen.

Players want good, fun, engaging gameplay not this copypasta of how farming used to be 15 years ago in MMO's.

http://steamcharts.com/app/223410#6m

Can't beat that argument.

Instead of mouthbreathing *** I am now addressing our comrades as mouthbreathing human vegetables.

Players operate in perfect safety on Alpha, and profiting from perfect safety should NEVER be even remotely close to what players can earn in dangerous areas, otherwise everyone puts 2+2 together and runs scripts/bots/afkminers on Alpha.

Sniveling about poor players that only want to play on Alpha is just laughable. Who wants to pay 30$ to log into a game, go sit at a spawn for X hours and intermittently press R and spacebar? Such players don't exist outside of Chinese sweatshops. Even Russians got their own bots and scripts sorted out, that's how "fun" PVE on Alpha is.

Population will never grow as long as the most profitable thing is to sit on Alpha, grinding spawns until the players grind themselves out of the game.

http://steamcharts.com/app/223410

Zoom, what kind of a player doesn't notice a Tyrannos approaching him surrounded by tons of red dots at ~40kph?

The botting kind.

1. Remove ALL static spawns from Alpha.
2. Remove NPC explosion-damage destroying loot.
3. Implement kernel-buy orders that activate when corp-owned Beta outpost (nothing in NPC terminals!) is at 100
4. Adjust plasma price to 275 Alpha/325 Beta NPC and Gamma/375 owned Beta outpost at 100 stability.

Less incentives for botting and hiding on Alpha, more incentives for playing the game and competing.

Sailing and PVP was very fun, would sail again.

Not without 30 people tho.

Dirty botters like you are the last person to talk about using bugs. Especially with a CHAOS tag, or did you forget how you broke Hunter's base? 100% legit right?

The biggest problem this game has is horribly slow development.

Followed by pig-headed balance patches that remove entire races or playstyles as viable options in PVP.