A little common sense helps a lot. It is the responsability of the players to ensure that theyre not doing anything unwanted - and of course the scale at which things happen is a quiet important point.

The mechanic can work as intended and still it can be misused. To insure against unwanted loss is the intention - to insure against wanted loss is not.

edit: if yure tried to be on the safe side and asked the DEVs about the mechanic, you should have asked: "is it ok to use insurance to gain money in large scale?" - and not - "is insurance working as intended?"

The intention is a different one - and this is about intentions only.

Hopefully target painters will be of use when artillery is there - so you need a fire team and a target painter in the target zone.

I agree Arga - the scenario you describe can be expensive. An important part in pvp is consequence - not necessarliy punishment for loss.

Now if there were consequences to dying other then the resource loss - and a political faction system that divided players by their player choices (dynamic factions resulting from target choice and fighting zone) there would be no need for expensive basic pvp equipment.

Neocron for example - a game with the most sophisticated pvp/trade char interconnection - suceeded very well on this part. pvp equipment was easy to get, easy to loose - and consequences resultet in a form of required social interaction to cure your pvp blessures by medicals and scientists - also reflecting on yourself with a faction system, giving or restricting access to certain areas, depending on your target choice.

Absolutely right Container. This is basic homework for any game out there.

Tiggus:

Its totally ok, that EWs provide a cheap way access to pvp on the one side for new players and be still viable in spider gangs later on for specialized players to a certain extend.

But they shouldnt be top notch, when they're easy and cheap to use. Theyre being used because only they can pick their fights, advance or retreat at will and are cheap.

This makes them superior to anything else in roamings allthough it isnt event the role they been built for since most builds go for speed and dps rather then tackling or EW.

Simply make their top speed be some sort of afterburner boost and decrease their base speed to the other speeds. They would still be the easy access pvp thing, could still have their role as supporting EWs and could still roam around...

..they would just need to pick their targets better and live with decisions they made if they used their boost for attacking or retreating, because they couldnt afterburn right again.

They couldnt kite defenders over the whole island if they dont use terrain and intel well and they couldnt just turn and run away after realizing whoops we didnt perceive the situation right.

I was talking with Siddy earlier about an appropriate way to implement an afterburner - the idea to make it accumulator based would favor greens immensly, so - what about making it interference dependant? Its a value that applies to all bots equal - though this afterburner wouldnt be made for anything bigger then lights.

Lets say the module would use inverse interference capacity as fuel - from a backstory point of view - interference would increase becasue of the engines powering at max.

Now youd have an ability that can be used on purpose for any speed relating matter in EWs to gain an advantage.

I agree Glimpse - funny thing is, i know this - it needs time, game is young, things went smoothe, QA is good - good odds overall - i tell this others and yet i find myself in the same situation. I think ill come up with some papers just for fun.

edit: yes Strad, i stumbeled over him

Yes Heckle you are right. At least i enjoy a variety of bots over using the same ones over and over just to win.

Oh i forgot - its your leetness that makes you superior and your awesome knowledge of this so complicated game.

You come as a small group, find an opponent and try to taunt him, the fight starts, skill, skill and again skill leads to your victory and you start writing short forum postings.

You keep modest and totally unexcited and by that appear for all involved like the winner!

The last 5 or so posts brought nothing new. We kinda agree that each mech has its role - thats fine.

We also agree that objectives for mechs are rather rare compared to EWs - but that this will likely change.

But how about not assigning roles as in: roamings or static defenses to bot types, but try to give each type a meaning in any scenario?

How about a simple change - a MK2 variant of each type having a focus on the opposite abilities they have now: an armored light/EW variant - and faster but lighter mechs as in less armor etc. or some kind of implants with can have those effects on your mech.

Those inverse mk2 variant would have higher reqs - again nothing would be taken away, but just  possibilities added. To create those MK2 variants is also rather easy.

I like Campana.

restricted was the wrong term - a third zone where pvp is enabled but is influenced by a political system thus reflecting actions of players coming from alpha and beta meeting in that zone.

edit: the arena currently would empty the game world even more as it would suck up players.

It has been announced multiple times that the next weeks and months will be spent on pve content - and by saying weeks on months also a timeline is being announced, otherwiese the term weeks wouldnt have been used.

Also - the arty thingy has been advertised with screenshots as work in progress  - so zero communication is a quiet different thingy - that would be if youd here nothing within months - but here we get to know stuff on a daily basis.

Um sure he wanted to say goat town.