Why can't we set sparks just to be used at terminals that are controlled by our corporation on PvP islands?

Standard teleports are the current means to get across islands with out sparks.

No one would care about this topic or time taken to travel for PvP if there were more players active on PvP islands. Where simply deploying from a terminal would be equal to entering a battlefield.

BeastmodeGuNs wrote:

Xadhoom wrote:

I really don't understand how this would benefit anyone, other then the ones that don't own anything so they can attack a terminal and hope they don't get defenders. Seems to be not in the best interest of pvp but rather the reverse.

Its not supposed to benefit, its supposed to make it so people strategically think and place assets/sparks in stations accordingly, not just Bam spark here, bam spark there, bam, spark everywhere.

this spark teleport change can increase roaming PvP on combination with the Epriton change, and also allows for more legitimate means of travel like interzones. i support mongolia's Idea and am glad that zoom finally has plans to have spark teles changed.

Good job Devs, one step foward for the community,

Only problem is how long it actually takes to roam from one faction beta to another.

I really don't understand how this would benefit anyone, other then the ones that don't own anything so they can attack a terminal and hope they don't get defenders. Seems to be not in the best interest of pvp but rather the reverse.

I will add, please look at the existing map and political control.

Is the current landspace because of SpT?

No. We took and captured what we did, mostly after the opposition stopped playing (sorry fellow STC and friends I don't mean to minimize how adept you are at taking and defending Gammas)

Can we maintain the current landscape because of SpT.

It definitely helps, for sure. Our alliance is the largest in game.

But the actual answer is no. If the opposition returned in the same or close numbers as our side, and with the same dedication, we would hold far less and things would be balanced.

Did the opposition post 1000's of messages when they were active in game and utilized SpT equally?

No. No need to explain this.

Do what you think is right for the game Zoom. But try and understand the reasons why things are the way they are currently. For the most part you do things right, but of course mistakes get made. My opinion is the proposed changes to SpT is a mistake and will not help the game in the long term.

That applied if you wanted to mine Epriton and I'm sure it worked well. Now that it's gone, the only reasons for Gamma are production bonuses and beacon pits(that's why I added few structures).

Estamel Tharch0n, both production facilities and beacon pit don't require you to make island completely safe.

Now compare that to beta. When you start hitting SAPs you announce whole Nia what you are up to and it's whole lot easier to kill someone on Beta than on Gamma under turrets protection.

So if you still think the progression is Alpha -> Beta -> Gamma then you really need to examine the game more. Just shows how knowledgeable people making suggestions are.

Rage Blackout wrote:

Its simple:

Primarily, people should be living on islands that they own.

Currently that doesnt happen because forces are a spark away  from anywhere in the game.

Empty Island

dumb

Saps come up, everyone and all their friends from 36 islands spark there for an hour, defend or whatever, then spark home.

dumb.

would you prefer to walk there 30mins every time? then ppl complain that travel takes too much time.

Mongolia Jones wrote:

I have an idea too:

We have an extension that allows up to 10 spark slots.

All alpha 1 outposts cost 1 spark slot
All alpha 2 outposts cost 2 spark slots
All pvp zone outposts cost 3 spark slots (betas & gammas)

I like it Mongolia good one! Make it DEVs.

Improvements:

All alpha 1 outposts cost 1 spark slot
All alpha 2 outposts cost 2 spark slots
All pvp zone outposts cost 3 spark slots (betas & gammas)
-owned beta op your corp (1 slot or 2)
-owned gamma op your corp (1 slot or 2)

Zoom DO IT !

Estamel Tharch0n wrote:

Im sorry but SAPs dont come upp at the same times.......

Then why are you saying that we are defending ALL the SAPs with SpT? Again, we are defending just one SAP at one time, exactly because of random SAP times.

Estamel Tharch0n wrote:

U can even deffend 2 outpost whit spark even if the sap came out at the same time all u need is detectors and ur fleet sitting in the outpost redy to spark to were ever the hostiles are at.

No we don't, and Domhalarn campaign showed that. Again, we were defending only most important SAP which resulted in you successfully took other one.

And there is another example. If 2 SAPs are up at the same island at the same time, split up. Show a half of your forces on one SAP, distract our fleet good enough, then let the second half complete the other SAP. Even if we split our fleet too, each half of your fleet will need to deal with much lesser forces. Divide et Impera.

Estamel Tharch0n wrote:

All u need is 1 outpost to shutdown a entire iland and or conquer it whit sparking.  Evry one has sparks in TMB, ASINTEC B, ICB   Witch has shrunk the world to a penut and kicked the game way out of balance.

Everyone can set SpT on ABT, ICSB and TMB without any restrictions. By your logic, that should mean that they should be able to conquer all the OPs on that island, but that doesn't happens. Why so?

Jita wrote:

Its a stupid question and misses the whole point line. With sufficient preperation a bigger force can take anywhere. Sparks reduces the effort making you able to take anywhere.

A better question would be without sparks would you successfully defend five islands? I think the answer is no.

Did you ever tried to attack all the OP's on all the islands at the same time? No. Did you ever tried to attack at least 2 OP's at the same time? No. Trick is, that any time you're trying to attack, we are defending just one OP at one time. Ownins OP's at 5 islands and defending them all - it's not the same. Domhalarn campaign showed that pretty nice - you successfully took Danarchov SAP while we were defending SAP on Domhalarn.

That's kinda the basics. If your enemy owns too much, attack at several points, force him to choose which one is more important or enjoy his forces separated and weakened. There is nothing to do with SpT, it doesn't duplicate our forces. If there is 10 of our bots against your 6 on Heydelhorn, there will be the same 10 on Koykili, not another 10. So every time your forces just aren't strong enough.

Bring more friends, improve yourself, and you will win, SpT or not.

Estamel Tharch0n wrote:

Line wrote:

So if everything you said is correct and true, we shouldn't be able to take over Iisetsu and Laosura, right? I mean, you will have a SpT advantage there and that will be not a problem for you to defend?

So ur saying u will SPT to asintec B insted that way u still whont use sparking to take those ilands?

Why? I could use tele beacons, maybe some interzones to jump directly from Shinjalar. Or that will be unfair towards you too?

Estamel Tharch0n wrote:

Martha Stuart wrote:

This is terrible argument.  No, new player's shouldn't get to control beta if "They so desire".  Beta is only for those who can take it.  Beta and Gamma mechanics are not for a new players, this is end game content.  If new players want access to beta and gamma, they either join an existing corp, or make an agreement with an existing corp.  Other than that, they build up on Alpha until they can take and hold a beta/gamma.

Who are u to decide who can take what???

The current game mechanics does not let any one take betas.....
And ur not  the one to tell palyers they are not skilled smart or old enught to have what the game offers

Who are we to decide?  We are the ones who control them.  If you can take one, then you deserve one.  If you can't, you don't.  Its pretty simple.

Estamel Tharch0n wrote:

Any one shuld have the right to move to beta if they so desires old or yung.  They shuldnt be forced to grow 1000s of players before they are allowed to even go out to beta.

This is terrible argument.  No, new player's shouldn't get to control beta if "They so desire".  Beta is only for those who can take it.  Beta and Gamma mechanics are not for a new players, this is end game content.  If new players want access to beta and gamma, they either join an existing corp, or make an agreement with an existing corp.  Other than that, they build up on Alpha until they can take and hold a beta/gamma.