Hopefully this means if I ever play again I will see more of you now that you have a fit your so confident in. I by no means am saying that EW is balanced however we have a lot of radical ideas being shot out. I would be glad to theory craft out some fits or openly discuss how it may play out or even go as far as to play it out.

You are running 1 account for this bot or what because any response by me will be 2+ of my own accounts. Given this is not balanced but when you speak to me then that is how it goes. In general I will agree a Zenith can shutdown a Mesmer 1v1 and deny his death. However He would have to maintain his flag and himself never kill the mesmer thus creating a stalemate of each player working their strength to their best.

My personal  record is 1 player using 3 bots killed 22 2month olds with no loses. The problem is that even if they killed that bot ithey still didn't impact my economy or wealth. I could do that another 50 times before I blinked. those are quite the odds to overcome and outlast.

@ep
a player has to have the knowledge and execute on that knowledge after leveraging it for 3+ months to only then be able to on par. They then need to have better gear to overcome most of the gap however I am forced to choose t4+ or t4 because I have that much to use freely.

We saw how many burnt out trying to keep up with the few billion m2s duped. I very may well have drastically more personally than they lost worth of duped gear.

Are you able to null all m2s kills on itself. I know they used a sequer mostly however a * could make same point.

Be cool to see lines ploting corp loses against kills, show how they developed in PvP

I think a new server being launched on a clean slate server in the most ideal location to supply the world would be the best avenue should any grouping of players 5k+ gain interest from steam.

The lesser server will always die off when you have two in any case as well.

Seems we have some CD overflow:

It brings a tear to my eye to see you all grown up STC, was just a little over a year ago that the very corp you are condemning enabled your corp to grow and thrive.

A lot is being said here and as the poster child of Noob slaying especially in regards to CIR. It is very tough to say we put any focus on them with me only having 1 kill on Blackhorn himself on Alpha. *Note I did let his follow bot get away*

Ludlow would it be to difficult to see a graph for the last how long showing the peaks of #Kills and then off to the side shows the top 5 corps. I know when I stopped playing it was always due to a dry spell of fights.

This kind of thread really shows you just how different everyone views the game and situations within the game.

@The Blob Wins
Sparking is not currently broken having 30 attack only to have 100 spark in to defend. It is when those 100 show up and drop 20-40 to keep you busy, while another 20 or 30 are sent to the other remaining outpost that is located to your flank and deployed from. We are talking about a force having the ability to move undetected to gain instant superior positioning and secure a victory every time. This is 1 Island with many outposts that this is possible. To resolve it we need to prevent being able to not only spark to a specific island to deploy and engage becoming detected but to also  stay docked for sparking to another outpost that is more favorable to engage from as the dynamics change.

No one has done this to me but we all know this is possible. Any means to produce the same mobility on terrain makes you susceptible to being detected by either a detector main or follow account thus notifying me or the players of your movement. Which is drastically different than me dropping out of a terminal in front of you in a Kain being shot and flanking you in my Mesmer mk 2 6 mins later.

@Tux
Yes I choose to roam the sake of killing miners and running, I hate trying to be engaged in a challenging or engaging fight and if i could lose forget it I am docked.

@Beta Incentives
They exist, could they be more sure however beta is meant to be a building block to gamma. Beta is not meant to be the feeding ground for gamma. Rather it should be where people want to risk a little for a better reward while avoiding the competition for "safe resources".

We vets are supposed to be making our multi-tile siege bots focusing on taking out each other sand-castles while newer players are preparing to build their castles on beta and alpha. As we progress onward to more a growing population would ideally fill in behind to expand and explore the new content.

What we have now is a 0 to 100 by joining the existing power blocks and you are really only limited by your EP because if you know the right vets they are rich enough to supply you until you are self sufficient. When I  was new I wanted to go to beta to be able to expand my research faster than alpha players and to kill anyone who tried cutting in on my spawn farm. Today their i can freely farm on alpha uninterrupted and if I go to beta their is a high change I die to a bot that kills me before I even show him on radar signature.

@Zoom
Let me ask you, Do you think that anyone could take Hokk from the hands of Styx with 30 siddy's following him on Hokk with the spark system? Not even 200 Steam players could pry them off that island. Bigger, Faster, Farther Shooting, harder and  Higher Masked bots coming at them from every direction but hey they are still just trying to figure out how to go faster than 70KPH

Could you imagine the interference of 200 people, hope they would know what it is lawl

I've bolded and underlined the important part here. Perp is a game of conflict. Of course the largest and strongest corp is king of the hill. It's not broken, It's exactly the way it's meant to be

Most just post to be constructive and attempt to detract from some of the more extreme views that have been portrayed. This is also the only hot topic on the forums ATM that is current and not absurd.

Yes MOAR land so I can hunt even farther for the elusive Perpetuum player across all the islands.

Arga

He is one of the players we are trying to protect. Hopefully he will become aware.

Ok again you guys are still just screaming bloody murder and making this personal.

The problem is not 10 or 20 maybe even 40 sparking in to 1 terminal but the fact that they can do that and then *If * they want spark and deploy again within that same island to rapidly redeploy.

This is about the added movement that is allowed even after you have arrived and are in the active zone or desired area.

Salty...

So maybe this is just me but I am not making a connection on how redeploying from the nearest alpha terminal is the same as sparking and redeploying from another terminal on the same island after already engaging someone.  Would you mind clearing that up.

If the majority thinks it is healthy to allow what I have stated then by all means lets allow it. I will wait to see if this is another "I told you so"  or I could be entirely wrong and it is balanced.

The record to beat is 3 days from the the first use to the balancing patch, currently held by the debut of the ERP Artemis.

Second place is either the L-Demob nerf or the Teleporter mechanic revamp.

I really am not comfortable with a flood of new players showing up knowing that I can on my own kill upwards of 25 at a time. Then be able to instantly move around to maintain supior positioning and mobility, while also having the ability to drop the red curtain in the same fashion. They tend to provoke that behavior in me and other *cough *cough

Because you want to enable both parties to get a few hits in before the fights over.

Lets Take Novastrov for example: If we remember back to the first battle of my last return to play you will see a lot of similarities.

Lets pretend one of us decide we want to own/roam NC and we go to its first sap with 20~guys. You get all dressed up and decide your fits and move out.

All it would take is the proper 3-5 bots to keep that group busy or harassed while you can spark in to Dana and full equip either larger or counter bots to engage from the flank instantly.

Lets pretend I flank with 15 bots that is a rank wall.

Now we can dive down in to who will win or not win but regardless of who does in this situation both parties have a fighting chance if the right calls are made.

There is no possible way a new player who is limited on his in-game ability and must rely heavily on his knowledge of the game to overcome fights will be able to combat or even acknowledge what is happening as they die.

I can count the FC"s who could even give me a run for my money If I was the defender on 1 hand. If this is the number of players who have the knowledge and awareness to combat this then how is this possibly good for the game?

EDIT: by no means should gamma sparking be limited. I know these are extreme situations I am bringing up but they will be common in a flourishing environment.

Tell us what we cant imagine that is so terrible if this were changed or it nothing but whispers and worries.

Ok maybe you just forgot how I play but is that a serious question? It would take me under 2 hours to fully stock 3 stations with enough fits/bots to handle anything from each terminal for the next Month.

its called a scarab mk 2

If I only OWN or WANT 1 island this is not hard. If i have 10 or even 7 sparks why do you seem to believe it hard for me to set them to a single island.

*To increase the PvP flag timer is silly because it will have a negative impact by keeping the the one with out access vulnerable just as long as the guy cannot teleport.

We want to make it so once a player Teleports and engages in PvP that they cannon t abuse the rapid redeployment.