I am not sure some peeps know whats going on in the game,,,or whats happened.

Ceo sssst have put half of the corp assets in a "pool"  before they let their subs expire....

Production peeps that used vast stocks of corp kernels to reach end tech,,,just to leave the corp looking into a empty 'pool'.

This 'system' is a sucker bet yet again....i have struggled to stay in this game.  i have six or seven T4 researched,,,using one koller of bot,,,mostly because the map is fubar!!!!!.  Now you want me to give a endity more kernels,,,that he can send to whatever hole he choses...and can lock me out of that hole. Jeeze i have read this story,,,and it does not end well....What are youzzzz thinking...

I am not going to hand over kernels,,,that i have a small chance of advancing me in this game.   The Ceo locks up all the gear that is produced,,,,because of fear of thieves, common good,,,is a joke. Why do you think half the server is playing something else....

I don't care what the production bonus is,,,reaching any tech with a 10x1 ratio for a production bonus.....is a brass ring....that no one ever catches....Put this hat on,,,and go sit in the corner...

PS,,,sorry i left without any positive vibes...my bad.

With turn over, attention span,,,latest "new" thing,,,,Hording CEOs walking through the wast land.

Corp tech should mature much faster then player tech...if this system is going to work.   Re,,,Reserching tech is probably my biggest *** in the game...so a corps research needs to be fast for me to keep doing it Over,,,and Over,,,,and Over...Zort,,,mentioned 4 to 1...or is that what time it is,,,four to one...we need three more...lol

"Gifted", pay no attention to it cause nobody else does.

So basically, going from memory here, the cost to get a rank 3 extension to level 10 is roughly 32k EP, 6 different tech trees mean for someone who has pretty much all T4 research unlocked he would need roughly 200k to get back to the same items unlocked. Thats assuming the RP conversion will be accurate.

I'm just using Rank 3 as an example. I think the new research system is needed, and an improvement. But your recent decision to have it tied to EP (blame Simmy's suggestion?) completely negates the value of RP, and randomly makes the guy who happens to have some EP banked the top prototyper. That doesn't seem right. And god forbid you make the extensions higher than a rank 3 skill.

Dude we already finished the "on-going process" 3 years ago, when we matched and then outpaced the rate of new content being implemented.

How can it be designed for new players, are they expected to start out and spend their first ~200-300k EP into enabler-extensions too? Oh right, they should probably buy more accounts to be viable right? As Cassius pointed out, what good is 27k observer kernels to me now when I gotta spend 100-200-300k EP into enabler-extensions that reinvent the wheel to get to the same place where we are already at?

It doesn't decrease the grind at all, it essentially resets it so what everyone had to grind before, now has to grind again, x10 for corp knowledge - except now you'll "grind" EP with your $$$/NIC too. So we'll get to skip the useless modules like cargo/chassis scanners, whoop-de-fookin-do.

Recycled content that introduces the worst kind of grind for new players, lousy excuse for evident lack of vision and ability to develop new content. Coupled with the prototype bots change, it should do a pretty good job of driving out any new players from the game when they hit the brickwall of the Grind.

So this change means my prototype character will now need 300k ep to be able to proto less stuff. Are they trying to make folks leave?

Even without extensions a change reducing the level of already gained research sucks tbh. Balance fragments and I could live with it :-)

On second thought ...

Allow down-grading extensions up to level 10 for every one permanently or (for first 30 days after the patch) with only 1 down grade per day 

this should enable everyone to get where they need to be with in 30 days of core system changes

What I will never understand is why they feel the need to *** industrialists over with every patch. I mean who thought it was a good idea to make everyone's research worth less? I understand making a system for new players and not existing but why *** the existing guys over in the process?

I am hoping this is simply the Devs being open with us and giving us a look at upcoming ideas (which we ALL yell and scream at them to do 24/7) and from our feedback realizing this particular concept has an issue (EP tied to research creates massive EP bottleneck that randomly eliminates researched techs)

So, thanks for being open to us on this, Zoom. We the players may have pointed out something you might not have thought of. Since its conceptual at this point and not implimented ... any thoughts on the direction you may choose to address our concerns?

Also both Celebro and Tux have some decent ideas. Since this will affect the long term indy charcaters the most, some way to adjust their current invested EP would be the best solution. My Combat doesn't need an EP reset because of this obviously.

And I should add that for myself, I have at least one account with enough EP banked, and enough kernels kicking around, to probably weather this whole change, as currently proposed, just fine. But it would probably be terrible for most existing prototypers and that would be bad for the game. And I just want the game strong.

In fact it would be most convinient if each Player would have the EP needed to get Reseacrh he allready made, but this would imbalance EP for a lot of chars and be a smash in face of those players that  save Kernels atm.

I agree that it would be good if in future research on one char for all items would be hard and diversification encuraged. On the other hand it is clear, that it is no fun, if char have enough "Kernelpoints" to get all research again, but needs 6 month EP to unlock. There needs to be a balance. Maybe it is good to use intermediate steps, like start with simple dificulty (1) modify the difficulty of the skill later on and give enough time to save EP.

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Arga, stop slacking and post one of your wall-o-text

I still remember our discussion a year ago or so about research changes. It was somewhere along these lines of changes that are about to happen. You where concerned about how much easier getting a to a specific top tier module would be, that's why I think now, that adding EP into the knowledge base will balance this out Nicely.