It was discussed a while back on a multi-account thread: The ONLY mechanic that deliberately supports multi boxing is the follow command, no other mechanic actually promotes this all the others are derivatives of social play.

So do you think increasing tedious travel, by having 2 miners and a hauler separately walk the same 15 minute real time hike it takes to get to and set up on a remote mining site is a good feature for the Alpha carebears this game desperately needs to pay the bills with? A nerf in this area does not aid in any way the outcome of an engagement or how much ore you will produce when mining, it simply adds an extra hour or two of tedium to the game. How can this possibly be good?

Can't we just leave this alone for now and let the Devs work on the what will most likely be very broken, newb island and the final touches for steam?

If your gonna nerf this mechanic, at least wait until after steam release so there will be ACTUAL players and less multi-boxing people who are trying to fill every last fleet roll.

I'm Obviously fine with less follow and more dedicated, but we don't have that kind of pop right now, so my personal opinion is to leave the followbot mechanic the way it is for now, finish steam content, launch on steam, then work on nerfing your little mechanic

I did not.

"I can be convinced to include PvP flag into the rule"

To include. As in: additionally to.

Just disable follow and approach.

Done.

If true culprit is pay2win multi accounting true solution is game launcher ...one account launchable per PC

Argue against that!

It would never happen as it's certainly in developers interest for us to buy and use multiple accounts. This whole Follow attack is a farce. This is about ewar range.  Only nexus arguments are about EW mod. Main other mod complained about is RSA. Both ewar and range.

This whole attack focuses on one niche of multi account user and it's so transparent.

You want to limit pay2win multi-accounting then limit every form, not one tiny niche. Real power of multi-accounts lies in industry, not PvP.

Nerf launcher and watch what happens.

So should they revert both SpT and follow changes because both were started by STC/77th?

Remove follow, wipe the game, re-release for Steam.

Wipe every few years when the fracture between vets and newbies becomes too big? Last time I checked Beta stickers were off the box.

very simple.
i know ppl that run their second account on a 2nd computer or laptop. this will reduce multiboxing but only increase the gap of pay to win. it will favor the ppl that dont care to buy another computer or laptop. it will kill some multiboxing for the pll inbetween, that can or want to afford multible accounts, but ppl with more money will not care and still will be multiboxing.
just one example of many to be found on the web: http://www.abload.de/img/p3140575ttwnrn9.jpg

then you can go on. one account active per ip... also dont works. sometimes ppl in the same house play the same game. family ... ...

you cant prevent it that way, not without other serious problems, and thats basicly not worth it.

the lock block while following or the removal of the follow all together might be a way better solution.

personlay im against the complete follow removal because this indeed was a usefull group mechanic. fleet movement, transport trains ... ...

The majority of why this is such a issue currently is simply due to population and the current population trying to chop down what ever their opponent is currently using as their last leg via mechanic changes. There should be no doubt in anyone's minds that both sides use multiple accounts and at this point most likely to the maximum benefit on both sides.

Two years ago fleets were running at a 20-40% second account rate to players. This problem is only exagerated with population issues because the type of gamer who will perform this tends to have more of a vested interest in the game and thus may stay longer. This style certainly makes staying in a game with population issues much easier as you can handle all tasks in-house on your own easier than finding the right people to perform those same tasks.

The second we have population and these tasks are performed by individual players then the benefits of multi-accounting begin to waiver and eventually become more of a handicap than a benefit.

Existing Counters
INTERFERENCE..........
Population.....
Speed fits.....
e-war....
Moving....

The only logical changes that could or should come from this are to take a look at and review 'fire and forget' fits that are able to approach a target and require no user interaction to win the fight beyond approach.

Closing
Anyone who still log's in and plays this game is only building to have a further advantage over the new players coming. Because it doesn't matter if its 1 guy playing 5 or 5 guys playing to killing the 30-50+ new players. Then if they do manage to finally take you down after a few attempts you have another couple hundred fit HM's ready to go. Once they finally spec in to a color of mech though to counter or play together you have such high extensions and war chest you simply rotate your fleet composition to counter their new numbers thus continuing the land slide victories.

New players or single account players will always be crippled until they have the EP and gear to run the proper fits to beat the "cheese" mutli-account fits. It is easy once you have that knowledge and ability but the power to it is the ignorance of your enemy.

The biggest issue really is having the industry to supply your combat with mutli-account play because If I have 4 guys who run 4 Rivler Mk 2's 2-3 times a week I would be hard pressed to get 30 or 40 guys who could produce those same numbers  to fuel our PvP regardless of population. Let alone having the infrastructure to support and manage that many players properly to compete until the majority of them were in near maxed Rivlers.

I still think the Devs have made good decision but that's because I don't see it as a multi-accounting strategy nerf. It's more to do with taking a small step in the right direction in getting back the usefulness of solo play with 1 account and that creates the need to get other players involved instead of your alts.

This is good for when steam comes too. We are going to need new players even more, the new miners will replace our alts, which can act as supporting roles/scouts etc. This is how the game was designed so that we need each other, and accomplish stuff as a group.

This achieves a couple of crucial objectives this game needs:
New players can get involved with the pvp aspect from the early start of the game, they will have fun, they will also feel needed and part of a group and game has a higher chance at player retention.

Edit: Zoom: And this is why you need to add pvp flag in the rule, because the targeting only is not enough IMO. The game will only retain players when there is a demand for them. Not by leaving them in a ghost town on alpha1s.