151

(15 replies, posted in General discussion)

Leary wrote:

Who cares.

Your mum


couldn't resist tongue

152

(15 replies, posted in General discussion)

G'day!
The time has come for me to take my leave of this game & these forums.

First off I would like to thank Zoom, Gargaj & the other DEVs (not sure how many are left tongue ) For creating what has been a fun game that I have spent what would be many months of my life playing smile
You guys had an interesting concept & its been a hell of a ride.
I wish yas the very best for the game & I wish you well in life.

To the community, I have enjoyed playing with & against all of you. And given I have been around for so long I've been a friend & enemy to most smile
I would like to think Jita in enabling me to derail threads  with breathtaking easy over the last 10 months. Yes the recording exists & no i'll never post it big_smile
To CIR PHM & 77. Thankyou you have been the best bunch & most fun group ive gotten to play with over the years. Yas kick A S S & that will never change (ill drop by TS some time this week) tongue

As to why Im leaving? I no longer have the time or will power to waste on gaming in general. There are better & more important things to do in life than forum PVP & blow up pixels smile

No you cant has my stuff lol

So i Sign out for the last time

Goodbye & All the best o/

ps. Abe I was never a spy smile

*Logs out*

153

(74 replies, posted in General discussion)

Kayin Prime wrote:
Ville wrote:

I want new players to feel like there's a player base.  Not a tab that says General Chat(4). We need a more alive game.  Npcs that shout things in vicinity, superior observers talkin ***.  We need a little more immersion.  I'd like to be able to put up marquees outside my terminal.  I'd like to plant vanity items on my island like a robot head on a post next to a teleport, I'd like a chain to go around my chain with a $ sign hanging at its torso.  I'd like to see npc caravans spawn at teleport walking to a terminal and despawn.  Stuff like that!

*tear*

So many dreams.  So much disappointment awaiting you.

https://media.giphy.com/media/s7LrWWLeWLumc/giphy.gif

All those hopes & dreams big_smile

154

(74 replies, posted in General discussion)

Ville wrote:
BeastmodeGuNs wrote:
Ville wrote:

It's that kind of attitude that leads to 14 people in general chat.

Well going on the forums and whining about how you can't be bothered to login because of reason A,B,C is no better is it? Oh well, seriousness kills Ville, and you've lost your old sense of humor ever since the steam release, lol.

It is, it provides an insight into how players think and what things bother them.  So that maybe the developers or the players can come up with a solution of how to fix it.  And as far as my old sense of humor goes, people do grow up and move on with their life.

Paging the real Ville..... Will the Real Ville please stand up? 

no?

Crap looks like were stuck with this Version then kids!

I want a return to more rock paper scissors sad

156

(74 replies, posted in General discussion)

Baer Mowser wrote:
Naismith wrote:

I'm talking to Zoom not you, when I have something to tell you there will be a representative to give you my regards and give you a notice to pack your sh*t.

Thank you for giving me a reason to pick a side.

Thats the pint.. we need more targets yarr

Perpetuum wrote:

This is cyclical.  Everytime Ville starts, Jita Chimes in telling everyone how bad the Dev's are, and what we have already told them what will make the game great in some mystical world.

Then Syndic comes in and tells everyone he already told everyone about everything telling everything.

Other smaller comments of note.

Nothing new.

And then Perpetuum makes a useless post. NOW the cycle is complete smile

157

(74 replies, posted in General discussion)

DEV Zoom wrote:

Obviously it's hard to give up on something that you've been working on for 10 years.

True but there does come a point where a pragmatic view of the situation is needed.

Im not saying "Hey you should just give up" but in any successful business if the basic numbers don't stack up what do you do?


Baer Mowser wrote:

This is the kind of response you should have given the first time. Now my question to you is, "What can we as members of this community do to help?" Have you guys brainstormed ideas with your current community to help bring more players here?

from the DEV blog:

Buddy program
If you invite someone and he/she buys the game, you both get extra EP or credits (to be decided, maybe both)
Account buddy-linking and confirmation will happen ingame due to Steam not having support for this before/while purchasing

One of a few things the community has been begging for the last ..... 5 years ? smile

158

(74 replies, posted in General discussion)

DEV Zoom wrote:

***** You don't think that most developers would have already said "f* this" and get a job that pays at least triple? Yet we're still here.


WHY ... Why are you still here if your working for peanuts??? Why? What motivates you guys to to stay here despite it all?
There's no more possibility for a new influx. Unless we get EVE influx 2.0. Steam launch has been burned. Where else  / how else can the game grow?
I applaud your work ethic & loyalty. But as a Businessman  I have to ask given what you said above: Why are you still here. Its not logical.

Why haven't you just sold the game or the rights or whatever?


Baer Mowser wrote:

Intention means nothing, perception is everything. As someone who is the main voice for the Dev's on this forum, he may want to show a little concern and perhaps attempt to dissuade the situation. Not just throw his arms up and say "What would that do?"

I mean, c'mon.....

Well look at it from Zoom's POV.... he has had to deal with & still does have to deal with a VERY strongly opininated bunch of gamers who have been playing this game for a LONG A-S-S time lol. We tend to grate on his nerves. more & more these days smile

+1

Every one forgets about this feature coz its buried

160

(74 replies, posted in General discussion)

Why does this game not have the Balls to show online numbers?

Back in the day at least we had a graph. But then it was removed after a DDOS.... lol lame reason IMO

161

(74 replies, posted in General discussion)

Baer Mowser wrote:
DEV Zoom wrote:
Baer Mowser wrote:

I would think that you'd be a little worried that no one is playing the game.

How would that help?

So, you don't think there is a problem with players perceiving the game as "Dead", really? and You don't feel this is a reason for concern or being worried?, really?

You're telling me that I just purchased two accounts for $28.99 each, to play a "Dead" game and that I shouldn't worry about it?

I'd imagine that your Development team should be frantic, attempting to think of ways to dissuade your current and future community members that you are doing everything you can to bring new people into the game. Perception is key bud, if people think this game is "DEAD", it will be.

"How would that help?" Really?

*Stands up & applauds the new guy*

Well done sir maybe they will take notice of you. The DEVs are tone def to the rest of us after all these years tongue

162

(74 replies, posted in General discussion)

DEV Zoom wrote:

I don't have time to panic about how many people are in general chat.

So a Hungarian DEV can live on $1 a day ? smile

163

(74 replies, posted in General discussion)

logged in yesterday to 8 people in chat smile

164

(12 replies, posted in Bugs)

DEV Zoom wrote:

Ok. So now the question is how would one f* up his modules like that smile

Hes Australian... it comes naturally

165

(98 replies, posted in Feature discussion and requests)

Jita wrote:
Obi Wan Kenobi wrote:
Perpetuum wrote:

This just in, if you can get enough of the player base to exploit.

Its not considered a exploit.

QFT smile

case in point:
3 years ago there was a cargo exploit every corp in the game had 3+ members using it. DEVs banned 1 person ?

When the new ore field mechanics were put in many scanning missions became horribly broken.

Again for those these 2 issues, every corp in the game started abusing them. No one told the DEVs for at least a month or more each time.
Every person I talked to or chat log i seen at least in part said "F*** the DEVs they dont fix sh*t & dont give us what we need".

At the same time as these happened (or there about) Beacon pits were kicking off. I could go on but I think the trend is clear enough.

I told the Devs. Thats why it got fixed.

No you cries & cried & cried & then the DEVs nerf'd AOE... they didn't fix beacons! Only now after all these years are they actually fixing the real problem with beacons them selves.

If I were you I wouldn't want to be any where near the DEVs side of things when it comes to how they have attempted to "fix" beacons in the past.

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(98 replies, posted in Feature discussion and requests)

Perpetuum wrote:

This just in, if you can get enough of the player base to exploit.

Its not considered a exploit.

QFT smile

case in point:
3 years ago there was a cargo exploit every corp in the game had 3+ members using it. DEVs banned 1 person ?

When the new ore field mechanics were put in many scanning missions became horribly broken.

Again for those these 2 issues, every corp in the game started abusing them. No one told the DEVs for at least a month or more each time.
Every person I talked to or chat log i seen at least in part said "F*** the DEVs they dont fix sh*t & dont give us what we need".

At the same time as these happened (or there about) Beacon pits were kicking off. I could go on but I think the trend is clear enough.

167

(98 replies, posted in Feature discussion and requests)

DEV Zoom wrote:
Obi Wan Kenobi wrote:

And yet so many times thru all those years, on the forums Zoom supported the use of beacon pits & AOE.

Now that is BS. Why the hell did we try to stop that by introducing all the limits and mechanics if I supported that? Way to twist things Obi.

Are you saying I'm Lying?
I will not apologize for stating things how I see them, nor will I hold back from holding the DEVs responsible for past actions & statements.

If you wish to go to war with members of your own player base that's fine I'm more than happy to go back thru what has been said on this subject by you Zoom.

The DEVS have flip flopped Zoom, thats a fact most in the community can clearly see.

Not only that but you attack Illiathos for using basic game play that is core to this game & make it look like he is exploiting or miss using game mechanics??
Zoom comments like this make my blood boil. And I would & have had this reaction no matter who it was said to.....

DEV Zoom wrote:
Illiathos wrote:

That was done only to keep the mobs from moving around.

And by that you gained serious advantages because conveniently all your support bots were able to hide behind terrain, out of LoS of the NPCs.

You have the audacity to talk about "gained serious advantages" when you didn't LIFT A FINGER to remove the BILLIONS of nic & millions of mods the were flooded into the game throughout all the years we had beacons?


Do not attack  Illiathos for doing what every person who has ever played this game has done..... use the terrain to farm NPCs.

Perpetuum wrote:

Second, Zoom did not "create" this fiasco, you did by exploiting beacons.

No its Zooms job to make sure that exploited items are removed from the game. The problem is the DEVs never have had the Balls to do that since Insurance fraud & Styx. Now the problem has been in the game so long & impacted the ENTIRE game it would require a full asset wipe.

That Mate is inexcusable for Developers to do or not do.

168

(98 replies, posted in Feature discussion and requests)

Jita wrote:

*******

How in the world are you going to stop people breaking your game with exploits if you do absolutely nothing when you catch them. Your encouraging people to exploit to compete. The amount of stuff injected in to this game by it is unbelievable and this 'aw shucks' every time it happens is one of the main reasons there is no future for perp.

Beacons should have been removed years ago, fixed & then put back into the game.

Ville wrote:

so...  Can we wipe the server yet?

Might as well. would put the final nail in & bury this, so we can stop watching the slow motion car crash tongue

169

(98 replies, posted in Feature discussion and requests)

BeastmodeGuNs wrote:

*******
And they have not banned for beacon exploiting or account sharing in like 4 years from my understanding so yeah.

My point exactly. Infact that brings up a funny history lesson.
- Remember Insurance fraud? The exploited items (nic) was removed.
- Styx duping? Items were removed AND most of the assets from M2S corp members. I say most because a few got
  away with having secret stashes. The point is: Items removed.

BUT when it came to beacon exploiting throughout history in this game nothing was removed. Despite it having a MASSIVE & I mean HUGE impact on the game. The shear amount of nic & items that was injected into the game made what Insurance fraud & Styx did look like a drop in the ocean.

And yet so many times thru all those years, on the forums Zoom supported the use of beacon pits & AOE. Now we get posts like we just seen in this thread. LOL im sorry but my BS meter just went off tongue
If he has found a new high horse to sit on then thats fine, but im still going to say BS smile

170

(98 replies, posted in Feature discussion and requests)

Burial wrote:

Still no bans?

Are you volunteering? Remember when STC popped 100s of beacons at once? YEAHH that was real game breaking exploiting.

Something you were very invloved with tongue

Also remember when the DEVs kindly moved ALL those exploited assets back to Alpha for the players base?
Another thing, who had the last Citadel fortress islands left? STC

Most of the games player base is guilty of exploiting some aspect of this game. If the DEVs handed out bans this game would have had no population years ago

171

(12 replies, posted in Testing server)

oh look at that, im getting a nice fuzzy feeling i haven't felt back since M2S was in their prime tongue

DEV Zoom wrote:

He is actually a moderator (with another character), though rarely does anything with it smile

makes me wonder who else still has these alts.
I do miss the days of having a GM on speed dial sad

Now we only get to hound Zoom sad

OH WELL such is life

172

(98 replies, posted in Feature discussion and requests)

Beacons were an interesting idea poorly implemented.

But I do find Zooms new found zeal for how people have used beacons in the recent past highly hypocritical. Beacons have been abused for YEARS in ways that make any p*ssing around on alpha or beta laughable.

Beacons should have been fixed a few weeks after they came out. Like so many things that have been introduced into this game

173

(12 replies, posted in Testing server)

Because these forums are *** old?

174

(12 replies, posted in Testing server)

Just wondering how the revamp is going & when we might see it?

ty smile

175

(132 replies, posted in Testing server)

Annihilator wrote:
Obi Wan Kenobi wrote:

Boosting income that can be gained from BETA outpost ownership, is merely one aspect of a number of things that need to be done in order to make this part of the game enticing.

oh,
really?

how is that related to the highway grid ? tongue

im sorry i didnt Quote Burial....

Idiot.