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Do you not see the problem with this line of reasoning?

How about the devs choose the solution that causes the most tears from farmers, since that is obviously the solution that will have the most effect?

I don't care at all about profitability here but the good for the game. I don't do beacons very often because I find that I'm able turn in most profit just by purely farming tokens and selling them..

Do you know how many tokens and NIC I can farm in about 6minutes game time per account? Tokens are in 3 figures and NIC is in 7.

Dazz, normally I dont correct anyone not named Ville when they say something stupid.

But I have to here. Do you have any idea how long people have been running multiple beacons?
At least as long as they have been in the game. At least a year, probably a year and and a half minimum.
Do you know how many times Devs have watched people running them? I guarantee you its been more than once and not just recently.

Why do you think the Devs made the rule restricting beacon placement only on Alpha, but not Beta or Gamma.... And also for about as long as there have been beacons.

So please, the Devs have been well aware of how people have been doing beacons and for how long. In no way shape or form have they ever intended beacons to only be run one at a time.

The sole issue with beacons now is terraforming is too great of an advantage to running them. As already mentioned their availabilty also contributes to the problem.  Don't kid yourself otherwise.

Luckily I don't have to think, because I already know why the rule was only implemented in Alpha, and it has nothing to do with how many beacons people run at one time, it was to stop griefing on Alpha using beacons.

Again, I don't need to guess at the problem, because the devs have stated what it is, running multiple beacons is earning NIC out of proportion with what they originally intended, so it is being adjusted. Theres no mystery here and people trying to make it about something else changes nothing.

Thank you I understand why the restriction is on Alpha. can you please tell me why it was not implemented on Beta and Gamma?

Agreed, but then why nerf it on Beta?

Because the issue of 'beacon griefing' is completely irrelevant to Beta / Gamma. What it has nothing to do with is running multiple beacons. What you seem to be implying is that it was deliberately not implemented on Beta / Gamma to allow people to run multiple beacons. I see no evidence for this, especially as it seems that it will be implemented now to specifically prevent that behaviour.

I assume the thinking is that people will build walls on Beta and do the same thing, but I don't know the answer to this question.

What I am trying to point out is that there is a perfectly simple reason for this change. You may or may not agree with the change, but you cannot discuss this without understanding what the change is meant to achieve.

Ville has spoken, beacons are fine, glad that was sorted... And yes I too think only those who farm multiple beacons at a time should have a say in whether farming multiple beacons is a good thing or not. Just wondering, were you dropped on your head as a child?

See Example A

http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topi … challenge/

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Actually yes. I said this as CEO of gamma PvP corp and hi-end prototyper. Also i play about 3 years since CBT.

But who you are?

Your looking at this from a "Beacon -> zomg pwnage (make lots of Nic perspective)"

When we are looking at this from "Get Tokens -> make tokens safe -> buy beacons -> Get beacons to gamma station -> pop beacons."

Some of the best fun I've had in game was chaining 4 to 5 beacons at once and watching the pretty pixels explode.  Hell let's start making it even tougher for players to have to farm more endless hours for things, let's revamp production randomly and had *** 19 commodities to make a *** YAGEL!  There is not a problem with players finding an efficient way to make a decent PVE living on Gamma.  Because what stops you from being attacked while your doing it?  Nothing.  What stops you from mass DCing and you losing a *** ton of beacons?  Nothing..  Honestly in Merkles video I seen a mass disconnect and probably lost 20 to 30 beacons in there + the *** quality of the fraps make me sad face.