those already left tongue thats the 25% - standard playerbase offset

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(189 replies, posted in Balancing)

In theory Anni - its very easy to dodge missiles behind trees and bushes. It works oerfectly for agressors waiting for a defence force and then keep running from that point - needlepinning the followers one by one.

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(189 replies, posted in Balancing)

Sure - this depends on the situation - roam - being attacker or defender. But when the attacker comes with an EW kite group - how are you supposed to engage them with slower bots?

Terrain use of EWs is much better then anything else due to speed an paths.

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(189 replies, posted in Balancing)

I agree partly - but its the speed again that lets EW groups dictate the fight in most occasions.

You run and wait for a mistake of the following opponent. And its easy for attackers with an agreed setup to kite the PUG and pick FF targets.

Thats the only reason why these roamings work. And its a cheap way. Again - im only talking about roaming/open pvp.

Hm you can do lots more in PO already now - playing alone of course can be a very limiting factor in mmos.

Havent heard anything about broken toons yet - so my guess would be a damaged installation.

The client is very small - id try a reinstall - it just takes some minutes while your waiting.

Lheomuh wrote:

with Games like RIFT around the corner? Dream on lol

Rift is already doomed - its just a clone, there are enough of them out there - they have no unique market.

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(189 replies, posted in Balancing)

Line wrote:

I think e-wars shouldn't be able to cause any serious damage and play theyr exact role.

Thanks!

Range and burst dmg in mechs gives you nothing when an EW can run behind an obstacle, come back and shoot at you - within 2 seconds.

Their speedadvantage adds up exponentialy against alle the mechs advantages.

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(35 replies, posted in Feature discussion and requests)

So, a bot test range/area would be the thing were looking for. Arena gives a false impression.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

Alfredson wrote:

The fact is that the devs take away all of the profit from he "insurance exploits". See original post on devblog about their math. The point Lupus was trying to make was that he blew up Corp insured bots, profit which goes to the Corp. This was bad, yes, but the Corp got their money taken away. But on top of that, Lupus's own money was taken away. This is double penalty and it no longer follows the penalty rules set by devs after the fact without informing anybody.

Alfredson wrote:

Xena, I have re-read the dev blog and there is no mention of them saying what you suggested. Please post where you found it. In the meanwhile, here is the excerpt:


DEV Zoom wrote:

I'd like to clear up some misinformations:

  • We didn't remove any money not associated to the suspected frauds. The 0 NIC accounts some of you see are because those corporations simply didn't have enough money on their account to cover it all. In these cases we went on with the private accounts of those corporation members who have actually executed the frauds or were connected to them.

  • Asking "how can we have 0 NIC, didn't we do anything for 3 months?" is very short-sighted. Ask yourself how much money you have spent on items and raw materials, how much money you have currently in assets and market buy orders, or how much you have traded or simply transferred to your own members.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

No they dont need to. They calculated teh gain, took it from the corps - and if the money was already spent - took the missing money from affiliated corp members

When they have the NIC that was gained by exploiting, they stop removing any more. Simple.

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(189 replies, posted in Balancing)

You dont need test - its a statistical value that persists through a lot of fights. EWs can evade anything they want.

Its the EZ mode class in this game. Unfortunaltely - some people dont like it and refuse to use them. Otherwise you wouldnt see any mechs at roamings.

BTW id didnt say 10 EWs win against 10 mechs easily tongue

But EWs effective dps is gigger then the ones of mechs due to their defenseive/offensive abilities - that combined with their low costs (it doesnt really matter if you personally fit you EW t4 and your mech t1) and their versatility - makes them pick of the year.

You dont need rocket science for that.

But then again - if the EWs kite the mechs - theyll pick em 1 by 1.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

Welcome to online games LA. This was always the scenaria and thankfully will be it. You pay for using the servers - nothing more.

Its solely up to the DEVs to decide what they like in their game and whatnot.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

Because its not true. It was an open secret since beta - and DEVs said to not spread the info and keep usage to a minimum.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

The game is always better of with less players, but people who dont exploit. The thing is - they wont stop - i know some of these guys from other games - and they did it in Neocron and MO - and *** up markets or the game in general.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

Im not refering to anyone in specific - but the ones trying to spin things around that are clear since beta.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

Thats not a problem Hecke, thats the game. You exploited big time and are dumb enough to think it isnt an exploit. srsly get off.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

I cant stand the lies in here - people were told to keep the exploit for themselves and to keep usage to a minimum.

They should ban all you guys right away.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

Drahkar wrote:

...is one big borg collective where if one is guilty, everyone else is aswell.

Thats why you better watch out who youre playing with. DEVs have handeled this very solid - normally in any other game - any suspect would loose his acc immediately.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

Yes im talkingh of direct communication: dont spread it and keep it to a minimum.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

Well i heard the opposite thingy - and last time it was stated yesterday in gen. chat that it of course is known and forbidden since beta.

The internal voices on this have been: ok thanks for telling us, dont spread the word and keep usage to a minimum.

800 sequers dont look like keeping it to a minimum.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

bureaucracy wrote:

some rights some lefts

Bureau, we both seen enough to know how these things start and how they end. This thingy is ended now - so its good for the game and everybody. Lets get it over.

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(189 replies, posted in Balancing)

No Tiggus, that corelation doesnt work because 1 EW cant overcome the regen of mechs. If there would be no regen yes, any EW could solo mechs easily.

But the effect grows exponentially in groups whereas the regen of a single target doesnt grow and the defensive capabilities of a group of EW against a group of mechs doesnt get any smaller. Hide and run away - work against 1 or 10 mechs. But the offensive abilities of mechs dont grow becasue if they cant hit - 1 or 10 mechs wont do any dmg.

Offensive dps EWs simply are too fast. As a pure tackler or supressor the speed is ok.

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(268 replies, posted in General discussion)

Exactly Arga - just a little common sense was needed. Generating money out of thin air cannot work.

Those comment in gen chat yesterday - tell a very different story though - as if somebody actually believed this wasnt an exploit or that it ruined the market.

On friday a infestation guy in the german channel even announced that they would need  to "take care" of their large amount of sequers if the exploit still worked so ...

Glimpse, apart from trolling your a reasonable guy. I understand that the current outcome wasnt expected. Im surte neither the DEVs expected such big numbers, so.

Story is over.

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(189 replies, posted in Balancing)

Tiggus wrote:

What exactly is a "dps ewar" these days?  One with 2 guns?  Sure as hell nobody fitting damage tuners on them anymore...

Making solo mechs safe against full groups is not a good idea, people were for that concept at launch but it appears now the soloers are upset with how it ends up in practice.  Ewar dps is already laughably low, you should see how long it takes me to kill a laird 1v1 in my ewar.

Also you talk a lot about NIC value not being equal between mechs and ewar.  This is wrong in almost all cases, my mech is FAR cheaper than my ewar which are usually all t4 fitted to be able to compete, whereas many mechs are std fit.

Tiggus - they have the gighest effective dps ingame! Why? Becasue they can apply it to their liking like no other bot can  becasue of their speed.

It doesnt matter how long it takes to kill something if you succeed. EWs currently are the lolrouges of wow.