Big +1 on the lack of PvE content and it's priority over player build structures and terraforming.

I really wish the devs try to cater what will become most of the playerbase -the carebears-, before trying to add more PvP options.

I don't really find these really interesting, as most of the time the winner is the one who stay watching the market for the longest time.

I think the one to won these wars should be the one able to reduce the price the most, even if he can't stay connected for all his selling time.

I'd suggest a system of reverse auctions, for the sell orders: when putting a sell order, you put an actual selling price and a minimum price. If someone put a sell order with a minimum price higher than yours but lower than your actual selling price, your selling price is automatically adjusted to 0.01 NIC less than the other minimum price, effectively undercutting him. Think of a reverse ebay. This would automate most of those 0.01 NIC wars.

(and that suggestion would still work with a consequent fee to adjust your prices)

If Hiro values were taken at constant reputation bonus, even accounting rounding, this doesn't work exactly. There is still something else.

For extension level 15, your formula gives 600/(1+15*2%) = 462, when his values give 458.

The formula Hiro was trying to check against was 600*(1-2%)^15 = 445. Which doesn't work either.

I agree these formula more or less work, but they can't be what's used in-game to compute the actual values. Or they have a lot of rounding during the computations.

Do not worry PvP guys. I am an hardcore carebear too, and I absolutely love it when you blow up your precious mech in some futile epeen war.

(and by love, I mean my wallet loves it)

I think it's safe to assume a new player will do it wrong.

Anyway, if I remember the numbers I've seen, for Eve it was only like 30% of the playerbase playing in what's equivalent to our beta island. And I don't think people will be more hardcore here than they are in Eve.

Not rewarding enough to create an economy there, at the very least. I'm sorry but we need something more rewarding than PvP for its own sake.

Could you explain why you think having a full and total respec before a month is the only solution?

Why would a slow and progressive respec option, as multiple people suggested earlier in this thread, not work?

I've tried to sell ammo on the beta island, this basically doesn't work.

And no being able to buy any resources there doesn't help.

We need some very rewarding PvE there if we want players to come. And the market will follow, don't worry.

... and make all those ammo copiable, of course

As an industrial player I strongly disagree with giving more ammo or items rewards on missions.

Just give them more money. And lot of money for outposts missions, as we need some incentive to sell our junk there, at the moment outposts markets are nearly dead and most combat players are going back to alpha island to do their shopping.

As an industrial player, I demand the right to manufacture EP.

From thin air and titanium.

Material efficiency works linearly on cost (which allows to compute easily the resources used by multiple successive production cycles), but that's the easy part.

The real question is how factory parameters (efficiency and relation) work on the cost (assuming extensions only affect the formers parameters).

Also how the producing cost (in NIC) is computed would be a good question. At least it's not directly proportional to the number of material used, maybe there is a weight to apply to each material, or maybe it's hard coded for each item (which I doubt).

I guess we need more data here.