This sounds reasonable. Any ideas how much?

Posting on a deviation thread for:

A) Spark teleport

B) The player gap

While remote ECCM is not a bad idea, it's again something that benefits people who drag a follow bot along the way.

Well sparks would be a completely differing issue.   As there are several gaps in the spark area.  As in higher relation sparks.  Good ideas however.   I look forward to see what the Dev Team can come up with.

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Although Minute adjustments may be justified nothing should change to the system.

Speed advantage
EW mech is about 10kmph faster than combat mech and 15kmph faster than combat heavy if all are using lightweight frames.

Range advantage
Similar base range as HCL lasers and missiles, but gets a nexus that gives 29% to range.

LOS advantage
Absolutely no need to have any LOS.

Efficiency advantage
1 EW bot can shut down 2 other bots.

Visibility advantage
Masked EW mech is seen by heavy at 400-450m and 600-650m by combat mechs. Alone it's not bad but in combination with above it is.

... so don't tell EW(Vagabonds and Zeniths) is not overpowered.

Whatever makes those bots weaker work. With 15% EW nexus they still have way too much range(560m+), not to mention no LOS issues.

That's with no range extenders.

My usual Vagabond MK2 fit for roaming mech PVP is 2 ECM, 2 suppressor, masker and local amp if I don't have anyone to RSA with.

With 1 local amp I get 760m+ locking range. Only bots that see me are the ones I lock. I'm faster than them and I don't need any LOS.

Balanced.

I will write it here again: Between vets it won't matter if its balanced or not because they can field whats needed - EP isn't an issue. I'm trying to balance it against combat bots, the bots that newbies are likely to field.

With combats, they have a chance to atleast kill something. With EW as is right now, they will easily be completely overwhelmed and it only gets worse each time someone dies.

There needs to be something done to ease that. Passive ECCM module right now is a joke and reduces getting ECMed chance only about 10% on a heavy(from 50 to 40). Suppressor has a lot higher strength and lands a lot better too, making ECCM even less useful. MK1 mech has 3 to 4 head slots and 1 will most likely be amp. Even with full rack of ECCMs, they will still get suppressed and ECM even though having sacrificed that much on range / damage.

I have suggested it from the start to add an active ECCM module that drains energy like masker(some amount * surface size per second) or like detector(30sec effect time with 30 second cooldown).

Just something to combat it.

You see how far it all goes just to have even slight chance to catch that one ewar bot? You need target market bot, demobbing zenith and then pray that the EW bot isn't using cover so heavies can shoot him before he gets away. That's atleast 3 bots!

You are yet again comparing vet vs vet fights for balance. I'm not arguing here, they are balanced because both sides can field whatever is needed to get the job done. If EW is overpowered, they will field them, but et me make it really clear with you for the third time: Ewar bots are too powerful when comparing to combat bots. Counters against them are bad, they have all the advantages. Facts are in this thread.

Stacking ECCMs works only if you have enough head slots. In the case of MK2 heavy with RSA-follow, it works decently. In the case of a MK1 heavy or MK1 mech who needs 1 slot for the local amp, it doesn't. ECCM is too weak.

I'm not saying all the solutions need to be applied and nerf EW to the point it's not used at all, but there needs to be added something to the game to combat it or nerf it.