stop looking at gear versus gear.

It is people versus people.

3 person's in wheelchair will be able to beat up your kain. Period.

Because you are fighting 3 people, that can work together against you. Ecm, decoy's, duck in cover while other shoot.

When you go against more numbers, you are always at disadvantage.
And your Russian math is not going to save you.

Лайн, это слова. Опиши математикой где ошибка.

Now we will estimate a parity a dps/repairing

We take the mech with average regeneration 230 hp/10 sec (280/10sec for nuimcol).
As result:

Trojar vs Kain = 28/3,6 ~ 7
Intact vs Tyranos = 23 / 5,76 ~ 4
Cameleon vs Artemis 23 / 8,5 ~ 3

Trojar vs Mesmer = 28/1,2 ~ 23 (need more balance)
Intact vs Gropho = 23/2,24 ~ 10
Cameleon vs Set = 23/5,86 ~4

Results of calculations show, how many it is necessary ew robots against the medium/heavy robot. The mechanics of fight light vs light remains former.

Pay attention: according to this results, lew wouldn't be able to kill mechs/h-mechs without EW and vamps/neuts.

Сильнее скольких, 10? Потому что 1 на 1 он сильнее, 1 на 2 он сильнее, даже 1 на 3 он может победить. Твоя кривая математика вообще не отражает твою мысль.

Вот тебе, коротко и ясно - скопируй и вставь:

I think e-wars shouldn't be able to cause any serious damage and play theyr exact role.

first of, russian forum --> that way
second: I hate that some people want this game to be a linear progression, you start with light, then assault then mech and finaly heavy mech, there are mmos with this mechanics they are not sandboxes tough.
As others said: 2-3 people when they know what they are doing will always be in advantage against one no matter if that one spent 5 times more on his bot.
also many makes dps comparsion but they forget that mechs have (compared to assault): better range(+they can actually fit range extenders), double hp!, and more slot to customize, either for resist, dps etc.

That 10-intakt Joe just trying to say us that e-wars shouldn't be a main forces. and he is right in that, just typed strange wrong maths.

however, there is no point to use intakts for fight only - its in your heads mostly. i mean, when you're bring forces with great number advantage, its always win, no matter what robot type do u use.

Dromsex,

if its going to kill 1 mech i better bring 10 assaults than 10 intakts at least. why should i dance around if i have number advantage? intakts can support me, thats much better that use them as main force

compareable assaults are 20-40kph slower then the intakt/camelions

while having more firepower and hitpoints, they have to get MUCH closer to the mechs to start locking them. Ewar has speed to close in, locking range to start locking before weapon range. with sensor amps same or more range then the mechs actually.

they can fully concentrate on using cover, demob and their weapons.

i have already stated in other topics about the same: small EWARS got more pro's then cons.

BUT: with all those DPS calculations there - do they include the mechs MISSILE launchers? Kain has two of them, Artemis one. They CAN deal almost granted DPS to those small ewars, but noone fits them as they need other extensions or the speed loss.

again - if you're alone vs 10 enemies - mo matter how fast you will die.

im not talking about being alone^^ - if the attacker EW group kites the defending non EW group - there will always be a single FF target for the attackers due to the speed advantage and the speed gap of the PUG - allthough they're within a group.  attacker can pick 1 target at a time without any chance of being attacked either.

As a defender you have the possibility to:

-let the intruders run away and come back at you
-let yourself be kited and die 1 by 1
-have a mixed setup with several tackler becasue once tackling done=dead
-choose EW yourself
-split groups and cut of the kite ways - requires double numbers

If EWs were either dpser with slower speed or EWers without dps but speed - this cheap way wouldnt work.

Sure, im not specifically talking mechs now - but range is null against EW being able to hide anywhere.

And btw - there is no way you get to a group of invading EWs in mechs without being kited, if they want to. You can let them stay out of reach - but theyre still there then ;>

You see? Your forced into EW. Thats a design flaw.