Espacially on bold.

*edit* That's fine, but you don't have to quote the whole post twice. - DEV Zoom

Agree. Getting tired of this. Very-very much.

Someone speaks the truth.

1 ewar is weak, 2 ewar are strong and 3 ewar is a nightmare.
They are not overpowered and what makes piloting an ewar any less fun than a mech or assault? Right now the only way to get any kills is with an ewar. We took 10 ewar and 10 mechs on a roam. The 10 mechs never got to shoot anyone. We even had to remote repair a Kain we found just to give the mechs nothing to shoot. Mechs are pretty meaningless unless you have a date and time to defend (Intrusions).

Roaming mechs will die. If you do not want to PVP then don't undock. As I see it now people already dock up the moment an enemy is 15km away at a teleport.

Build a gang from the ground up.

How to build a gang:

• 6+ ewar of mixed types. For each suppressing robot bring 0.75 ECM robots. For every 1 to 0.5 ECM robots bring a drain/shield/neut robot.

• Mechs replace Assaults as they do the same speed or there about. Bring a mix of assaults. Kains for closer range shotgun fights. Artemis for long range laser pewpew and Tyrannos for hill fights. Anyone unable to use a mech should bring an assault. If you have greater mechs than ewar at this point you require more ewar.

• With mechs now coming along you can bring mech ewar. Bring up to half as many ewar mechs as you have mechs. They're good but not great.

• Heavy mechs can now come along too but will slow the overall speed of the ground by a lot.

Note: You will want to bring remote repair with you. 2 mech/heavy mech remote repair and at most 2 ewar remote repair.

This should build a balance 20 man gang very easily. Ewar to catch/keep away the enemy and the larger DPS for larger engagements (rare).

Agree. Mechs need fixing. They either need less hit disp more speed or greater range.
More health won't help but they are really lacking armour too.

Nnnno, that's just "whatever bot was at hand". It's just a trajectory calculation test, not an actual module.

Ah great, thanks for the clarification.  I await AOE damage then with less misgiving and more excitement.  If the arty is fit only on heavier robots, maybe that may finally give them some role to make up for their slow "sitting duck" speed.  Though I wonder whether AOE damage will render Remote Repair and NEXUS modules obsolete as bots need to be close together to use these effects.

As for this thread I just wanted to share that EWAR swarms wreck the power-to-cost ratio.
In the desire to give newer players a decent beginner's PVP bot in the EWAR light, don't give them such a good bot in swarms that it removes the need to get into anything better.

I actually have confidence in the DEVs ability to balance things over time after seeing things like the Arkhe nerf (no more weapon respawn in Beta), which dealt with the ridiculous Arkhe spam.
Now its EWAR spam all the time, time to nerf that.

I put my Waspish away weeks ago for pvp I'm in a Troiar til they make changes. E-wars are better than anything else out there. You can't be caught, you choose your fights, when you do fight your still effective. One guy in an ewar specced for ECM can shut down one or two opponents, regardless of what they are driving.
Mechs are expensive, slow and easily beat by two e-wars if they have sensor supressors and ECMs.
Doing an intrusion event? No problem, just stick a medium plate in an ewar and your hard to kill.
Running slower than 90 kph is death with all these ewar running around.
Assault bots run at 60-70, but they can't do anything to a target running 100 away from them. Tackle bots will get killed before assaults can catch up. There is just too large a speed difference.
Light Ewars need a 10% speed nerf across the board. They should be the fastest thing out there, but they have too big of an advantage right now.
Mechs need to have their sensor strength looked at. Light Ewars shouldn't be able to keep two mechs jammed continuously.
I won't get into all the defensive bonuses for being small. Put an evasion module and a shield on a ewar and it's just as hard to kill as a heavy mech.
The net result is light ewars are the strongest thing on the board right now and for the forseeable future.
One more thing, the troiar is the worst of the bunch, so pelistal users are the worst right now. They are the slowest and have the worst bot bonuses of the ewar. Small drainers/neuts need to be looked at, they are almost useless right now. I'd rather run with 1 ECM than 3 neutralizers.

I'd like to see you try this next intrusion.  I will have my lols on standby.

You need to understand that a lot of us that run ewars have Nav 10 AND we use tier 4 frames.  Yeah, it's a lot of speed, but we paid for that speed and it's all we have to be honest.  We don't have damage bonuses, we basically NEED to travel in packs to be able to kill anything larger than a light.

nope. the four ew bots will field at least two sensor supressors, 2x demob and eventually 2 ecms, and 8 small weapons -> the mech pilot will be pinned down, unable to lock something and slowly die.

a skilled Tyrannos with 2x sensor amp, 1x t4 eccm and no lwf could eventually stand a chance.

Well more players should win over a single player with the same cost invested. But let's look at this further.

Unless something changed. Maximum debuffs from supressors is 2. You can't be debuffed further. A double amplified mech should still be able to lock at 300m after debuffs.

ECM is the tricky part. Especially combined with the locking speed reduction from the suppressors. If you are up igainst 2 intakts/2charmelon your goal is killing one of the charms. If you can do that the rest should be easy (on paper).

ECM has short range. If a mech starts locking outside 300m (before he get slowed from the supressors) he may be able to snipe a bot before they get in ECM range.

There is just too many factors that have not been investigated properly.