You mean because people like Jita and Smokey have such a vital interest in coexisting with us?
Do they even know you go behind their backs and try to work out deals with their enemies?

It was never about "working out deals" I was trying to find out about your main goals and if theres room for friendly PvP.
Actually i was thinking about organizing some PvP events.

But one of your main goals is to grief people.

Contact the giant zerg, and so long as you come out in proper fit bots that they don't loose so much, or you don't threaten them, well you'll get a station or two! Just ask RG how this deal works for them.

If you do threaten them, well ....

Just like fighting FOOM. If I bring 5 guys in assaults vs 15 assaults/ewars/1 mech and die fast it's a good fight. Like nwar brings 2 assaullts vs 10 assaults it's a good fight.

However if I bring 5 mechs vs 15 assaults and lights, its a BAD fight for FOOM.

You see as long as you play the dumb deer , you're fun to play with, but bring an equal force with skill and it's over.

Lets focus on this part of your rant for a second.

Now it took 62nd 2 weeks to figure out how to combat a single mech in pvp. The solution? zerg him with 5+ mechs and have refit mechs ready as he pops them.

Now that we have covered how 62nd's own tactically superiority over  a single player lets move on to the credibility of a corporation to rant and bark like that little dog behind a window safe from the outside world of beta.

Its ok Mara... we will all continue to walk by waving and laughing as you jump in the window for attention safe on in your alpha.

All bark no bite.... just as e-corp was before they perished under CIR. Remember those fateful wars that sparked your demise "I WILL QUIET LITERALLY FACE ***K YOU" may they always be ringing in your safe alpha terminals, reminding you of your previous attempts at real pvp life.

EXAMPLE: http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af3 … Edited.png

P.S. 3 of them are refits (1 being decon back in his mk2 after losing his mesmur to Lemon)

I'd focus on what you say blue ball, but you've sat in general talking so much trash making yourself look so hypocritical that now you're just a laughing stock to my corp we use to egg on fights with CIR.

Can you re-roll again and come up with more "glorious" ideas so we can get some good videos of us just stomping on you?

You're so angry and upset with me, you picture me raging but what I'm really doing is chuckling again at watching another cir member talk trash to its opponents with a big zerg behind its back. That's the ironic part.

wait im done... my post covered all of it.

Your post is confusing. Are you mad about last night? The other night before that? I don't know.

When we engaged you the other night with our '15 assaults/ewars/1 mech ' You came looking for us after you saw we were heading to beta and you knew what we had. We didn't go looking for you, we were looking for fights in general. Anyone we find when we go on roams, we kill. If it just so happens we meet an enemy and we lose, we don't care.

If you're mad about last night? Your buddy Immortal Death was farming on a Beta island. You guys of all people should know that Beta isn't a place you're just free to do as you please. If you go out on Beta alone, you're on borrowed time.

After we killed Immortal, we offered your corp a fair fight. We stopped our roam and told you where we were. You knew what we had, where we were and you had our attention and invitation for a good time. Instead of bringing something when you actually had a genuine opportunity for a fair fight, your corp brought 5 mechs and 2 light ewar (some of which were MK2) to deal with 8 assaults and 4 lights with low EP and T1 gear.

Then when we leave your corp starts whining in general about how we ganked immortal and that we had no right to leave in disgust. We didn't choose to gank him, we encountered him by chance. Our arrangement with your corp afterwards wasn't chance, both parties knew what was about to go down and where, yet your corp grossly ruined that  opportunity.

You always trumpet on these forums about fair fights and all about how 62nd wants things to be even and then last night you go and do something like that? Your corp just lost a great deal of respect last night. Maybe you don't care about what we do or what we think of you, but you should chew on that  before you post again about your ideal 'fair fight'.

Dear Pontifex,

Your in-depth analysis of our simple and honest agreement is quite disturbing in some respects. Meat shields, pets, taxes, grinding people out of the game, territory control, domination... is that all that is worthwhile focusing on in M2S? What happened to simply... enjoying the game and being happy with what you have?

While it does make me and the rest of the boys laugh when you spit venom and rave like a lunatic on the forums about the big bad zerg, I do have to point out things - just to poke you more into another lunatic rant so we can continue laughing.

First and foremost, I do not get "bored", my patience is limitless. We did not assault any "new players" on Norhoop, we came over and burned down the island looking for you and your 62nd. They fought honorably, killed us a few times we killed them a few times - you however with your superior tactical skills and elite PVPers, were hiding on Alpha and letting them die.

Then again, I don't blame you for not fighting - your members that played during EU prime time were grinded out of the game in a mere 3 weeks of getting annihilated every time they stepped foot into Beta. It is a credit and the biggest praise you give us continually every day for months now, that you quite simply don't dare step foot on the island while we're online.

By all means now - continue raving about cows, zergs, blobs, fair fights, etc. You've been playing the same tune since we finished off what was left of your Vindictive comedy, M2S picked up what players were worth something from the ruins, and left you to smoulder on Alpha.

Nobody is listening to you. Every corporation you have been with before 62nd has died, every alliance disbanded, every coalition dissolved with you sitting on the curb crying yourself to sleep. The new corps will be listening to you for a while, until they realize whats under the surface.

Quite simply, youre whining about people losing pixels. You lost all of yours already. The only time you'll own territory is a PVP-open zone will be the interrim of M2S letting you hold it for a while, and us being occupied with more important matters before burning you to the ground.

Now go back to your dounce seat and let the grown-ups talk little one.

I wasn't mad, just a bit dissapointed.

You were afraid to loose assaults and ewars / lights to mechs. We've lost countless on beta, and given we only had 5 mechs, you would have taken down at least 3 if you focused your fire. I estimated a 2:1 advantage on your side in numbers, and firepower.

From your view, and sayings it seems when people fight you with less mass it's ok, because you've "just started", but if people fight you with "equal mass/firepower" it's heinous, because on that specific fight I decided to use mechs instead of lights to compensate for the 2:1 disadvantage. It's like you think mechs are a huge space between lights, when they aren't. You need to go kill some with some lights, it's very doable.

Another point, previously I decided to let you have a disadvantage, and outnumber us 5 to 15 and when we died you said good fights. So what's a good fight?

But this time instead you threw up your hands and said you were "outgunner/skilled", total bs, we've taken on outnumbered/outgeared/outskilled fights countless times. Even though we loose ships we've killed twice or three times our value going down. I wish you would have had the same spirit. You would have killed 3 mechs easily, and the ewar you could have taken down. Your value in kills would have been at least 2x,3x your fleet worth.

SSShhhh dont tell the Mod's we moved here or else its gonna get closed.

We're not afraid of losses, we all fit with what we can afford to lose as going on a roam in to beta we expect to meet resistance of unknown proportions. Which for new pilots usually results in death.

You brought a force that would have clearly killed ours. CLEARLY. Which you also just noted we'd have lost. But you think the factor of us killing a couple of you would be amusing to us? Our FC is not stupid nor does he expect us to all lose our bots, just to let you guys wipe us off the map.

This was an arranged fight. Do you ask your weekly tournament entrants to fight the odds? No. Why? Because they wouldn't show up to hand you their NIC and leave with nothing. That's exactly what you asked of us last night. Maybe you would have lost some mechs, who knows. We don't really care.

When the outcome of a battle is unknown, that's when it's fun. It was up to your corp to bring what would be considered that fair fight you wanted. Instead, you brought a force you knew you'd win with and that we also knew exactly our fate when we saw you.

If you call that sporting and fun, I'm sorry, but our views very vastly.