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  Actually I didn't know those things, only roughly knew numbers 10~15, had no complete intel on ship types, knew nothing of lwf/roaming fit, didn't know your exact location. Only knew it about 5 minutes before jumping in. I lterally logged in 10 minutes after death died.

Only new your location near koykill.

I'm sorry you perceive a small mech force as outforcing you, I've brought different ships to engage you and had a great time.

I will try to remedy this next time. By bringing lights if I'm in charge.

I think I have to disagree here.  First, if you can get lots of little groups out into the beta islands trying to do their own thing, then you have a better probability of running into someone.  It shouldn't just be massive corps out there because it means you need to have a similarly sized friends list to be effective (especially just starting out).

Truth be told, this "pirate" activity how I learned EVE pvp mechanics.  Tiberiuis, from FOOM, and I would grab our recons and headout into lowsec looking for a fight.  Sometimes we got industrials, as you put it, but the majority of the fights were with people also in small groups trying to do the same thing.  We won some and we lost some - but we had fun and we learned.

It would be unfortunate to bypass or ignore these similar experiences in Perpetuum because the same fun and learning can occur without needing a friends or corp list a mile long.  I believe that further encouraging smaller groups to head out into the betas would be a massive benefit to the longevity of the game.

Thanks for giving me the info.

I wasn't aware.

Next time I will bring light bots, and a proper force.
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more pvp = probably encouraging fun fights, and not zerging people out of stations, kind of what cir does in game while lying about it as well.

I'm not sure what you Parrots want... pre-arranged fair fights?

I will admit we did have enough to win. however I will also admit you would have taken us down fairly well had you committed.

How come we take on nfl teams and win?

Jose Maurinho would fit in perfectly with M2S.

But, like I was saying there is no way to motivate small groups to head into beta for 'fun roams' other than for the fun of it, your corp and those like the 62nd are already doing that, so those that will - are.

What I'm proposing is not massive corporations or alliances locking down whole beta Islands, we've been there and that just leads to teleporter sitting burnout.

What I do mean, is exactly the concept that 'this worked in eve' so lets go ahead and try it here. While I believe that many things are universal to games, other things are not and strategies and need to adapt.

Corps like Foom and 62nd certainly have a place in the over all game, but the long term game health requires corporations willing to go the harder route of aggresively pursuing dominance in the game; and I'm not talking about M2s, I'm talking about 2 or 3 corporations with similar goals all competeing for the what ever 'shiny motivational' bauble the devs think up. Corps like CIR, currently, fall somwhere between as they have clearly indicated they don't wish to expand, but aggression and expansion are what drives conflict and results in pvp.

Not to put to fine a point on it, but you just want the 'fun' part of the PVP, without all the overhead of controlling area. That's OK, but some corp is going to need to DESIRE to control something for that fun to be ongoing.

Don't leave the game, we will need FOOM like corps, but right now the game needs more power block corps - and more soliders for those corps.

I really don't know what's going to stimulate that notion to be completely honest. I hate to draw back on this subject, but it's quite pertinent as it's pretty much in relation to the only war (sadly) on our server. Most people think M2S' previous insurance fraud pretty much gave them an amount of resources that can't really be touched. Even by M2S' own claims, they're pretty much filthy rich. You don't just grind someone like that down. It's at a point where it seems like nothing short of catastrophe for them will change this situation. Something to the ends of social engineering, a huge corp theft, some new patch making their wealth less important. Who knows? What's certain, as long as that stigma of their warchest exists, our server is pretty much going to be in a deadlock until either M2S disappears as per previous noted situations, or everyone whom opposes them finally gives in to attrition.

I'm not going to speculate the results of either side. That's just my opinion from the sidelines.

It's just M2S making a 'claim', it hasn't really been tested, but I do tend to believe it mostly. But you're right, no single corp is going to grind M2S down, and even 2-3 aren't going to do it overnight. But it can happen, and that is one of the reasons why M2S isn't letting up, they aren't invincible YET, mostly because they don't have the man-power. On the other hand, if there aren't any incentives for other corps to do, what is going to amount to a terribly hard grind aginst them, then it is over, and all anyone can hope for are scraps of fights on deserted beta Islands.

just reposting the same anti-M2S rhetoric isn't adding anything of substance.

If you want to make a point, say what the M2S game is, and what the alternative is, and I'll listen. But I'm no one's parrot, if I say I think the game needs more power blocks, its because that's what I think it needs to counter the M2S dominance. Troll or not, after your 'just play armadillo' until M2S wanders away bored post, I find it difficult taking anything you say seriously.