Yes it would screw light bot balance, you can already do it with a waspish as i have seen, use a troiar if you want to neut people.

I came and fought you on Hokk, you almost got me.

First thing to do probably is to decide the type or corp you want to join, big split in that is between industrial/alpha based corps and pvp/more beta based corps.

Then its just a case of finding a corp that suits you, i'm sure most people who have been playing a while will be able to answer any questions you may have.

The problem that came from the old reinbursement method was that someone could get blown up, another player comes along and loots the wreck, the guy gets his stuff back, and now there are multiple of the items that dropped, to eliminate this "dupe", they made it so that you only get back what didn't drop, best you can do is get someone nearby to grab the stuff in your can.

I know its probably not the best way it could be done, but its the only way right now.

In line with this, it would be nice if GM's, when carrying out a reinbursment, if told soon enough, could recover the dropped items in the can for the player.

Yeah, some of this stuff may be a little out of date, now, we shall see.

The way i work it out is like this, though it is probably not the best way.

I know there are other formulas used, but this one works pretty simply for the assault nexus.

As for being bias, i'm not, i put in normal ammo along side it, but agent ammo is an important factor in Pvp range, and i haven't left anything out in regards to kain range.

The only thing i will say is that when it gets into falloff it gets tricky, as it is something that can't really be compared well, how about optimal + 1/2 falloff as a comparable value?

Just doing a few calculations of Kain vs Tyrannos, can do one for artermis if needed.

All are done with lvl 10 extension and t4 equpment in mind

Kain

Max Locking (without farlock) = 693.825m (220x1.5x1.45x1.45)

Self amped 463.45m (310x1.3x1.15) [2 Amps 1 range extender] falloff = about 100m (though i personally try never to shoot within falloff if i can help it.

Remote boosted 612.912625m (310x1.3x1.15x1.15x1.15) falloff about 100m

Pros

- High Damage for medium/long range weapons.
- Kain is Fast, letting it somewhat dictate distance in long range fights against other races.

Cons

- Some Ap Drain, about 144ap per alpha.
- Los problems

Tyrannos

Max Locking (without farlock) = 725.3625m (230x1.5x1.45x1.45)

Self Amped 649.8765m [Heat-iX)(315x1.2x1.3x1.15x1.15)
              557.037m [Ballistic Chemo] (270x1.2x1.15x1.15)

Remote boosted (needs farlock) 859.46167125m (Heat-ix) (315x1.2x1.3x1.15x1.15)
                     736.6814325m (Ballistic Chemo) (270x1.2x1.3x1.15x1.15x1.15x1.15)

Pros

- Less Los issues (can use hills, some plants etc for cover while still hitting the enemy.)
- Insignificant AP usage.
- Has access to an agent ammo for increased range.
- Can change to short/long range without requiring to re-equip, as it is based off ammo, and not weapon.

Cons

- Less DPS than Turret Races.
- Slower Speed, which makes catching enemies hard if they run or try to dictate range.
- Tyrranos has only 3 leg slots, meaning that if it wants to fit for speed and be able to rep itself, it can only resist one type of weak resist, usually this is kinetic, meaning that it is somewhat weak to other missile bots. (this is ignoring the usage of sheilds for now.)

Do say if one of my calculations are wrong, or where i could add a pro or con.

Credit to Etil DeLaFuente for the mass formula, this just goes and turns it into bot speed.

Thanks for that Alex, but does seem kinda smart arsey.

Heat Sink -> Weapon Tuning?

I think that one works, my only eve account i have is about a week old so forgive my lack of knowledge.

Might want to specify that these are CT's and not bots.

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