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Yes it should. Isn't that why you guys do it? Or is it all SRS INTERNET ROBOTS over there?

NEX is noob central. I'm one of the older accounts and I'm from the last week of June. We take out two kinds of roams: the mighty swarm, and the small reavers. Gang ops get the occasional kill, reavers get lots. All of them are light or assault.

The devs are fixing my biggest irritation with the game in the way I've consistently asked for; they're nerfing lwf, and buffing base run speed. That makes me happy, as it lowers the pvp returns superior wallet can get you. Yay!

Now, what niche would you fill by having a light only island. Would you help newbies? No. They can catch most mech fits, and they can't catch most older player light fits. So they're at aworse disadvantage. Would you make pvp cheaper? No. Newbs are gonna be taking out lights anyway, and they're more likely to survive a fight with a mech that can't hit them near so often (and, post nerf, can't control engagement through superior speed). If anything you'd be raising the cost of pvp by making them more likely to die. Would they learn how to use cover and avoid bigger stuff with terrain? No. Nothing bigger to engage, and enemy lights can climb rough stuff just as well.

Rather than creating an RvB style newbie paradise (which RvB wasn't, even if it was pvp heaven) you'd be creating a shooting gallery. So I'm against it. If vets want to roam in light class bots I welcome it. But I'm more than content to keep things the way they are now, where most of my foes are fitting what they feel comfy in and I'm able to engage or retreat at will.

If Foom wants some help setting up cheapfleet reavers and finding pvp, I'm willing to set up a shared chan or talk in our open ts. We've got a good chunk of experience handling this whole underdog thing and we don't mind sharing. But this ain't something I care to support.

Based on our regular wulfpax kills, including a recent takedown of a mech by a couple lights and assaults, I don't think we need advice on that front. We can and do hunt down isolated peeps.

But gang on gang, benefits of gear and better range, speed and dps makes it nigh on impossible to stand and fight. Game has extremely effective anti blob mechanisms, which I support and enjoy, but lacks an appropriate gear/ep delta necessary for new players to engage with hope of victory. If prices come down on high tier gear it'll reduce the effectiveness of roboknighting, so that's one of our big goals atm.

That said, the next big saturday roam we do will have some entertaining surprises prepared for the folks that engage us.

I view the gear/ep delta currently in place as inimical to good pvp. Advantages are biased in favor of older players to an excessive degree.

I will not always be a newb. Eventually I will have all those advantages and more; such are the advantages of being leadership in a large corp. I will not stop complaining about these issues.

Giving older players more tactical options in the form of more bots and more gear that they can fit? Great. Giving them significant straight up power advantages over new players? Bad bad bad. Even worse that wallet size (or commie corp equivalent) is a better determinant of pvp outcomes than player ability.

If you want new players to join the game and compete, they need to be reasonably pvp competitive from early in their career. That means higher base stats on bots and lower returns for ep investment rather than player ability to move about. That means low quality gear should be competitive with high quality gear. And it means that active tanks need to be crappier; a single player being able to tank newbies effortlessly is bad bad bad.

Guild Wars was and is a great pvp game because gear and runes were trivial to acquire for pvp. A player can be on mostly equal footing with a vet gear wise within a couple weeks of starting the game. And yet they'll be utterly destroyed by a veteran team, because ability to gear up is irrelevant by comparison with vet ability to assess situations and react appropriately on instinct alone. The very best pvpers in GW don't even really need comms. They have so much experience working together and dealing with situations that a monk pinging low energy is all the information they need to pull off an orderly withdraw.

Sure, there should be a capability delta between vets and newbs. But it should be small. Vets should win through superior knowledge of game mechanics, and the ability to put that knowledge into play with finesse and speed, not by having enormously superior stats and gear just because they logged in longer.

That's what makes for a good pvp game that thrives. I hope the vets of this game will join me in rejecting time subbed as the best determinant of ability to win.

I'm not talking about renters, I'm talking about a game supported version of what CVA wanted to do.

Price is less of a concern to me than capability. I eve, a t2 dcu gobbled more fitting, cost way more and wasn't really all that much better than the t1 variant (60% v 50%). If this game was tightened the performance gap I'd be pretty well content.

So then you don't mind us being a bit faster, is that what you're saying?

I don't disagree the odds are against us. So what. I've fought worse odds than that in EVE, and come out on top in situations that'd blow the mind of anyone just tabulating it. C-Beams off the shoulder of Orion etc etc.

Death don't worry me. Long odds don't worry me. Not being able to catch my bigger, stronger, more experienced, richer and generally better connected enemy in my light bot with cheapo gear? That does.

Well, first off like everyone else you're invited on the nex pvp roam this Saturday. They're fun, social and while we lose we don't lose much. I'm of the DF view that says losing is fun and how you learn, and I enjoy the teamwork involved. Also I have a strict no screaming if someone *** up policy so you won't get yelled at if you ask questions or make mistakes; safe zone matters to me!

What do you like about the current mining system. And how would you say it is fundamentally different from production? In my view, they're both a single button press followed by a time period followed by output of some kind.

The only thing I like about the current system is the way it forces teamwork. A hauler and several miners can have a decent time coordinating things; not pvp levels of coord, but still. Adding to that enjoyment by having to manage laser heat and subtargeting to improve yield. I want to base it more around player skill than just passive watching. Then I'd be involved rather than playing DoW2 and occasionally offloading to can.

Basically, I want to play the game I have in front of me, not another one because the activity I am doing does not require my attention and involvement.

Your distinction is absurd. The agent has to be continually involved? Farcical. My Indy alt can mine and build simultaneously. By your standards this should be game breaking, yet you've rationalized it away with yet another contradictory and illogical argument. Want me to take you seriously? Start making serious arguments.

Activites that mostly do not require the active involvement or attention of the player, like mining and indy in their current forms, should have a slower and more expensive version that, like the current fire and forget indy prodcton lines, is utterly devoid of player involvement. They should also have faster and cheaper mini game style active versions that require significant player involvement.

In essence, provide indy players with a choice between active or passive engagement and stop accepting dull and grindy activities as gameplay out of some sort of ridiculous reactionary zeal.

Edit: I've never concealed that this is my Indy alt, so yes this is my Indy alt in case you were wondering. Dunno why I'm logged in as him, but this srs poastin is killing his rp personality!!!!

Zoom, why you gotta be hatin'?

Much love, brosef!