Lemon: I don't know what your definition of "new player" is, but I'm talking about day one players, whose concern is less about betas and epriton, and more about getting their first light bot and not getting killed by rank 1 NPCs.

Trying to get a mech or t3/4 equipment hardly qualifies a player new in my book.

I have several month old, and even a few week old players in my corporation living in gamma , it does effect them if you remove this essential ore.

Although this may seem bias, these new players have taken the risk to move early on to a pvp area of your game, free choice and all that.

Now with this change its not good enough that they have taken this step, they have to participate in what will be the most dangerous pvp areas competing for high tech gear and mechs or grind enough NIC to afford epriton or the gear thats uses this material.

Edit: I understand that you are trying to promote more pvp, but we all know the amount of players we have is the key issue, aside from the infinite supply of ore that can supply 1000s of players, is available on all islands.

Noted: the MPC bonuses are there but only because we could mine Epri on gamma to build those facilities.

Bear in mind they will increase the reward factor on beta, but that also brings more even more risk than now. So risk and rewards remain somewhat same as before and not much has changed in driving players to beta.

Edit: IMO this change that does not justify the means.

I get the idea Burial. Why not make a new material exclusive to beta that does have importance but not us crucial as eprition.

Like I suggested before new ore to build NPC seeded stuff like:

Terraforming beacon charges
Terraforming module charges
Construction charges
Wall charges and walls
terraformer beacons and modules
proximity probes

Whatever else is in development for the future.

The main problem is not Epriton on gamma it's the mechanics in gamma that can make it quite safe, but we still don't know what will happen with 1000+ players ingame, so this for me is more a 'hit and miss change let's see if we get right this time'

While this is true it was before both sparks and detectors. Reduce the availability of sparks on beta down to two and you limit the problem while maintaining some of spark's benefit.

If you reduce it down to 2, people will just use 2 detectors instead of 1 to go over the islands and Interzone in from Alpha2. That's a lot more lethal than undocking from Beta terminal.

Like Shadow said, the effect is yet to be seen but keeping an eye on one terminal doesn't sound like hard job to me.

The move of Epi to Bates just seems like a knee jerk reaction. im cool with islands have some ore types that other islands dont have.

I would LOVE the devs to instead of just saying "Hey were moving XYZ to or form this island" to actually getting to the balancing of these island types on a grander scale not just in 1 area.

Back when Titan ore was removed from Beta (to alpha only) the begest hassle was transport between the island types. Now i know we have the scarab but its ability to haul the amount of materials needed for real mass manufacturing is  far cry from what is needed.
And a far cry from what Gamma corps & market traders will be needing to transport around.

DEVS Give us a real Freighter Mech:
make it slow make it only able to haul from station to station hell .. restrict it so it cant use mobile TPs but give it a cargo capacity of 1000s of m3.
That way changes like this make the job of transporting basic market goods around the game world better.

yes epriton is a major part in production.

this is a list if resources needed for MPCs. not telling exactly wht structures and what quantity and for what reason.
but you see in the distribution what is needed in units and volume. epriton is the major part after liquizit.
http://i.imgur.com/ZFeJjXs.png

this are 100 of each T4 weapons and 10 of each mk1 bots (all of cource under gamma production).
its a little less worse for epri, but ist still one of the major parts. and transportation is defenently a big issue.
http://i.imgur.com/gKaZTTE.png

or to put it in other numbers:
for these two examples epriton is 20-26% of the total resources volume.

Yes, that would solve the issue of nublets having to move to the edges of the island hunting Titan too because everyone had mined out the fields closer to terminals.

When I saw this subforum had new messages I was hoping it's Zoom saying when this change is taking place. Soon?