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Topic: Epriton to be removed from gamma islands

This is an early warning that we have made a decision to remove Epriton from gamma islands, and soon it will be only available on beta islands.

The reason for this change is that with the introduction of gamma islands the role and importance of betas has changed. Gammas turned out to be too self-sustaining, while the reasons to have a constant beta presence for corporations became pretty optional. Our hope is that with this change betas can again become an important part of the game's PvP mechanics like they once used to be.

Like in the case of similar changes in the past, Epriton won't suddenly disappear from gammas, only the generation of new fields will be stopped.

The exact date for this change will be announced later.

2 Reply by Heliaso (edited by Heliaso 2013-09-04 16:42:46)

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I'm ok, only IF THE EPRITON's FIELD ARE NOT UNDER NPC !!!!

Same for the others minerals.

3 Reply by Burial (edited by Burial 2013-09-04 16:43:53)

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Thumbs up!

Heliaso wrote:

I'm ok, only IF THE EPRITON's FIELD ARE NOT UNDER NPC !!!!

Same for the others minerals.

Come on now.. big_smile

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Heliaso wrote:

I'm ok, only IF THE EPRITON's FIELD ARE NOT UNDER NPC !!!!

Same for the others minerals.

Since the field locations are randomly generated, we have no control over this. And since we have roaming NPCs it's not even possible really.

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OK, good luck for the new players when all epriton will be under npc.

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Under NPC epriton isn't really an issue. Vets have no problem clearing those fields up when they get stuck like that and there aren't better fields around. wink

8 Reply by Heliaso (edited by Heliaso 2013-09-04 17:01:28)

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Burial wrote:

Vets have no problem

Heliaso wrote:

good luck for the new players

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New players aren't the only ones mining those fields. If something gets stuck and there are no other options where to mine, then people who can handle the NPCs get the epri.

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Production has just been rewritten

Everyone will understand how this is going to effect markets once the epri reserves are drained .... have fun lol

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11 Reply by Celebro (edited by Celebro 2013-09-04 17:35:32)

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This not a good change Devs, you will need to change again just as you did with titan ore. You make gamma even more worthless, not to mention all the static NPCs below fields, roaming NPC is no excuse.

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12 Reply by Ludlow Bursar (edited by Ludlow Bursar 2013-09-04 17:37:36)

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DEV Zoom wrote:
Heliaso wrote:

I'm ok, only IF THE EPRITON's FIELD ARE NOT UNDER NPC !!!!

Same for the others minerals.

Since the field locations are randomly generated, we have no control over this. And since we have roaming NPCs it's not even possible really.

Solutions have been suggested for this. You should seriously consider them.

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Yeah its the static npcs on Beta that's the issue.  Now are you planning on fixing spark teleports too OR removing the lockout mechanics on beta stations?

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So is this going to mean an increase in a the base pool of available epriton on beta ?

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15 Reply by Tux (edited by Tux 2013-09-04 17:55:01)

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Yeah its the static npcs on Beta that's the issue.  Now are you planning on fixing spark teleports too OR removing the lockout mechanics on beta stations?

Hey Devs can we just say to hell with static spawns remove them and replace them with ALL roaming spawns throughout the game ?

with mineral fields and missions(soon) random NPC's should all as well

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Great change!  PvP!

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Yeah its the static npcs on Beta that's the issue.  Now are you planning on fixing spark teleports too OR removing the lockout mechanics on beta stations?

+1 spark teleport needs to change for this. Anyone can spark quickly on the 3 betas and do the 'rounds' with detector alt, no one is gonna mine but the larger force.

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18 Reply by Celebro (edited by Celebro 2013-09-04 18:00:10)

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Tux wrote:
Ville wrote:

Yeah its the static npcs on Beta that's the issue.  Now are you planning on fixing spark teleports too OR removing the lockout mechanics on beta stations?

Hey Devs can we just say to hell with static spawns remove them and replace them with ALL roaming spawns throughout the game ?


Sounds like a really good idea to me. We have beacons to farm NPC, we could buff loot drop from roaming spawns to at least make it worth the hunt.

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good decision

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Noralgis on beta only would have been a better option for this, at least you can place it anywhere, with a buff to growth and yield.

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Ville wrote:

Yeah its the static npcs on Beta that's the issue.  Now are you planning on fixing spark teleports too OR removing the lockout mechanics on beta stations?

+1 spark teleport needs to change for this. Anyone can spark quickly on the 3 betas and do the 'rounds' with detector alt, no one is gonna mine but the larger force.

there's actually 6 betas roll

Lock out mechanic should stay as is

you may think changing sparks will do something to ease this change but people with more than 1 or 2 accouynts will easily avoid and SpT cool down penalties

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22 Reply by Heliaso (edited by Heliaso 2013-09-04 18:00:59)

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[18:00:00] <Dev Gargaj> Zoom, i want to mine some hours , but there is NPC on the epriton's field. Could you come 4 or 5 hours for ECMing/suppressing/draining them ?
[18:01:00] <Dev Zoom> Yes, of course , i will have so fun i stay afk 4 or 5 hours.
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Re: Epriton to be removed from gamma islands

Ville wrote:

Now are you planning on fixing spark teleports too OR removing the lockout mechanics on beta stations?

There is no decision yet whether we want to change it or not.
edit: Spark TP I mean, removing lockout is not even considered.

Tux wrote:

So is this going to mean an increase in a the base pool of available epriton on beta ?

Probably yes.

And I don't understand the fuss about NPCs really. What if we said they are intentionally there upon the fields to defend a high-tier mineral? Besides, there aren't any real challenges in mining other than the occasional guarded field.

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Tux wrote:
Ville wrote:

Yeah its the static npcs on Beta that's the issue.  Now are you planning on fixing spark teleports too OR removing the lockout mechanics on beta stations?

Hey Devs can we just say to hell with static spawns remove them and replace them with ALL roaming spawns throughout the game ?

Something similar I would say:

Get rid of all static spawns and have them spawn randomly on terrain and use current beacon mechanics but with different timers, probably best if there are 30 or forty spawn locations per island. If they don't get shot for an hour they disappear and spawn elsewhere. If someone's shooting then they spawn at least x waves. If they are Red spawns then they don't aggress for 1 minute unless aggressed.

Not a solution for dynamic ore in inaccessible places - there are much better suggestions for that - but definitely a change that would make the NPCs in the game world seem to have grater purpose than just pointlessly milling around in circles.

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Tux wrote:
Celebro wrote:
Ville wrote:

Yeah its the static npcs on Beta that's the issue.  Now are you planning on fixing spark teleports too OR removing the lockout mechanics on beta stations?

+1 spark teleport needs to change for this. Anyone can spark quickly on the 3 betas and do the 'rounds' with detector alt, no one is gonna mine but the larger force.

there's actually 6 betas roll

Lock out mechanic should stay as is

you may think changing sparks will do something to ease this change but people with more than 1 or 2 accouynts will easily avoid and SpT cool down penalties

the other 3 beta could be locked they have no terminal roll

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