The detector won't be in detection range of the terminal. The detector has been logged off on the island previously. These are not new tactics in Perpetuum Shadow.

The only warning they potentially will have is a mass of people sparking to the terminal. You have either 120 seconds to logout or escape the island if you cannot respond to the force (which there is no limit to). In 120 seconds (assuming perfect response time) a miner outside of detection range of the terminal can easily be tackled.

You're welcome to this hot mess.

I'm not going to bother typing out the 3 paragraph explaination about how reducing the epi mining area to just beta is going to make it 200% easier to scout, or how 'fast travel' is going to make it very easy for harrasment squads to prevent players from mining.

I'll just sit back and wait for the complaints to roll in.

@sun/ville -  just enjoy the ganking now and the 'told you so' later

Spark teleport may need a change, I don't know. I do know that ninja miners are gonna get ganked. Its the nature of the beast. With or without SpT.

Will it really matter if you can almost never mine? If you can't mine and do industry, you can't afford to lose bots, you won't be able to last on beta.

New entities need some breathing room to grow else we will always have 30 people in general chat.

EDIT:

Yeah ninja miners will get ganked, it is the nature of the beast. I am not worried about ninja miners too much, I am worried about new beta entities being able to grow.

That's not true that you can never mine. Just keep your eyes up and mine until enemy reaches certain threshold. Example, you mine on Beta2 and enemy is preparing in Beta terminal. Stop your operation for a moment when enemy reaches Beta2 island. If you are just worried that someone can't mine on beta at all due to enemy movement, then cooldown is not the right thread, you should voice the concern in the epriton moved to beta thread.

Anyway Sundial, you are underestimating how clever some people can be after few months of playing. It's not hard to mine on beta if you smarten up. With the growing Epriton price, it's not probably too bad even if you loose few bots here and there.

I am not worried about me, I am worried about newer groups of players being able to progress and grow in the game and one day become gamma entities even. You know one of the reasons we lost alot of entitites was because the cards were stacked against them, the vets were hungry for blood, they couldn't make enough use of their beta and either went back to alpha or quit the game. That was before we had spark teleport. Now imagine the same scenario if we did... It is not pretty.

Its not even only about mining, its about missions and ratting as well.

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand, increasing force projection will only serve to cut off more breathing room to new perspective powers in the game.

Now we are on the same page. We need solutions before the new population starts making a go at beta islands else history will repeat itself. Granted some groups of players have been stronger than others, but I feel like many of them were destroyed too quickly.

Well, we started today with this post. This is one way, but at the same time I imagine it takes a lot of hours to implement. Hopefully someone can find a better solution..

This has really been the issue all along, and SpT just makes it worse.

Doesn't matter if it's STC, CIR, or M2S, if it boiles down to corp/alliances having the power to give or take away beta access to other corps, then the game is simply broken. Either it is allowing these corps/alliances to become too powerful or it's not allowing new corps suffcient opportunity to 'earn' their place.

Of course, I'm leaving alot out of this, because I simply don't have time to repeat myself.

Its gonna be possible to kill people no matter what you change, the question is should five guys be able to cover six islands instantly.

For me that's a no brainer.

Even doing that, it only slows down the power projection for the time it takes an interzone to warm up....

The main differences between interzone and SpT are their bottlenecks and where they can project power to.

Spark Teleport:
a. Must be able to dock at destination.
b. Must have set destination for spark teleporting at destination.
c. Must have bot ready at destination.
d. Must have 1000 nic
e. Destination must be an outpost within any range.

Interzone Teleport:
a. Must wait 180 second warmup time
b. Must wait 30 seconds between each individual player
c. Point a can be mitigated in advance by placing the teleport in advance. Placing in advance has drawbacks including being spotted by hostile forces and potentially wasting the teleport as well as potentially missing your target.
d. Point b can be mitigated in advance by setting up many interzones at once. Cost and distance restrictions between teleports is the limiting factor here. Of course you are even more likely to be spotted in this scenario.
e. Destination must be a teleport within range

All of SpT's power projection bottlenecks can be mitigated before power is projected (set your destination, have bots at destination) where as interzones provide no way to do this reasonably in advance without large tedious expenditures. The main advantage of interzones is the ability to project power to any teleport within range instead of any outpost that meets the restrictions of SpT. Regardless of this, SpT still comes out ahead for almost every use.