lol "consensus"

9 out of the 10 people with active subs are lazy and want free travel

That is not a consensus.

Burial, You in particular abuse the spark system so you and your alts can manage all the stations and loots and timers, etc, etc ,etc.   A couple accounts should not be able to do that without the cost of time and travel or some other cost.

Of course you want it to stay this way so you dont have to "do" anything.

Your time is over.

Beta is gonna be a slaughter.  lol

no new people are going to even bother subbing after they lose their first mining bot.

Kapow

limiting free movement will help minimize this

That sums it all up right there.  Well said.

About aspiring beta entities: With the way current SAPs and outpost control work there's not much difference if Sparks are used or not. Both sides know when to come and participate, just because one has spark cooldown won't make him unable to come and defend/attack - but for some reason that's what people think happens. With 5-20 minute notice, a group of players can come from any corner on Alpha to any corner on Beta and with current SAP mechanics, they have a lot longer notice.

Here is a post I wrote about it btw: http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/post/84090/#p84090

It's something that has happend all the time even before sparking and will continue to happen with or without cooldown. Not much more work to suicide to Alpha2 and come from there. Beta2-s are a lot more appealing now after sparks though.

Anyway, I already suggested it way back to tie sparking to relations. Add faction relations and make each outpost require certain amount. If you are the aggressor and kill someone you loose some amount on the relations.

In the end it makes it so whenever you kill someone on Blue island, you have to either grind your blue relations up(which can be pain if you want to do it on betas and don't own outposts there) or slowly loose the ability to spark to blue outposts. Could even go as far as not being allowed to set home station to any blue terminal, hence not even being able to suicide there.

It was already suggested that one way to balance Alpha and Beta missions is to make it so that Alpha ones just gain lower relation gains and rewards. That would work well with the system I suggested because if your main goal is to gain back relations after gank, you would prefer to use Beta missions.

With that system, I think a lot of people would just not bother with faction relations on anything but the island they are using. For bonus sparks you would need corporation relations so even if your faction relation is low, you can still use it. The whole system would remove some mindless ganking and make gankers life harder if they can't set sparks conveniently.

Removing or limiting spark teleport isn't gonna stop miners getting ganked on Betas. If people wanna sit at TMB all day and hunt miners, they will. All the people that want spark teleport nerfed are just going to sit on betas hunting miners. They want to slow down any response to the point that they can get away safely. At least with the ability to spark there, gankers will have to commit knowing there could be a response coming from somewhere.

Just mentioning it here that detector shouldn't be able to get on an island unspotted, even less a full fledged gank squad. Keeping eye on a beta terminal is even easier than worrying about where exactly an interzone could pop in. Either way It's not very hard to detect people coming to your island nowadays thanks to probes.. If they then still leave bots on the field, full well knowing they can't fight back, there's no hope for them and will be continually harassed by anyone looking for easy kills.

Same thing happens without spark teleportation too btw. Detectors get around fast, but usually not undetected. Gank squads can move fast too. Only thing that kept it back in the older times was that people just didn't have their bots that spread out and not because lack of spark teleportation.

I agree, it's slightly more convenient to use sparking, but for the result you are trying to archieve something else needs to change.

And this is why just increasing the PVP timer doesn't fix all the issues.

Remind me again, how many probes did we kill in the 'Probe wars' with arkhes? Yes, they adjusted that, so you'll need a cheap light bot instead, but the kill to value ratio is still in attackers favor.

Consider the following scenario:

1. Gankers stock up at certain alpha terminals.
2. Gankers log off detector on each island.
3. A few times a day, gankers log in the detectors and look for targets of opportunity
4. If a gank is possible, A small quick light ewar squad blood spark to a stocked alpha terminal, and interzone in to beta. Tackle and kill miners before they know what hit them.

And not a single spark teleport was used.... And actually works much better than trying to undock a gank squad from a public beta terminal unnoticed.

SpT makes force projection faster and easier, see above.

And then they will fail miserably.. One guy inside beta terminal is all it takes to spot their force projection.

At this point they will have to upgrade their game and avoid those terminals. If the beta is known to be used during certain time, then logoff trap sounds best.

The point here is that both attacker and defender both benefit and are penalized by spark teleport. If the attacker sparks into tmb and undocks to go gank, then the defenders can spark in and gank the gankers. It evens out in the end.