It's about all of the terminals, every single one of them.

The ability to have a force present by proxy at any given time.

As if people were in two places at once or nearly.

100 people could be here in a moment and there is no way to tell because of the broken mechanic to magically move everyone anywhere with no penalty.

If people cant see that is wrong, I dont know what else to say.

The system we have now is a convenience thrown in to calm the barking dogs or bears if you will.

Thats not a good idea. First of all, people don't usually have that many sparks on a given island to jump from terminal to terminal. There are few who commit to single island due to missions and have 3 but that's it. It would also mean that he would have to have bots in each of the terminals and don't give me the answer that it's easy.

The thing that COULD change is added time on PVP flag. Make it longer, perhaps 10 minutes and no-one could jump ahead of your escape attempt to gank you because they would usually be PVP flagged. 10minutes should be enough for you to get out of harms way.

Devs, DON'T CHANGE spark teleportation. It has effects the guys in this thread can't even imagine.

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for example, Martha Stuart would have a stroke

Yea...its not like the Dev's are not changing missions.  And its not like we dont support it fully.   And were apparently not looking forward to the patch.

Throwing another wild idea: Remove spark teleportation and allow only to be sparked into beta outposts(when stability is over certain threshold) and gamma terminals you own(or in the future, your alliance owns)?
Alpha sparking could be based with relations.

With that system, no-one could spark to beta terminals anymore.

I was merely rebuffing a negative sentiment toward STC, not questioning the Dev Team's drive and determination!

Tell us what we cant imagine that is so terrible if this were changed or it nothing but whispers and worries.

Ok maybe you just forgot how I play but is that a serious question? It would take me under 2 hours to fully stock 3 stations with enough fits/bots to handle anything from each terminal for the next Month.

its called a scarab mk 2

If I only OWN or WANT 1 island this is not hard. If i have 10 or even 7 sparks why do you seem to believe it hard for me to set them to a single island.

*To increase the PvP flag timer is silly because it will have a negative impact by keeping the the one with out access vulnerable just as long as the guy cannot teleport.

We want to make it so once a player Teleports and engages in PvP that they cannon t abuse the rapid redeployment.

You can't imagine a lot because you are not living constantly on multi-island settlements. You are only limited by your knowledge of beta islands and a little of gamma operations you did and I can say they were little because I saw the intestines of them when we took them over. Ville is probably one of the few players besides us worth listening here if he weren't the vilest of the basement-trolls.

On gamma islands, there is constant sparking around between different outposts to do tasks that require a minor portion of time thats nowhere near 1 hour and would leave people regularly stuck with the cooldown timers if they were to be implemented. When someone has only few hours per day to play or even less, it's not wise to make them choose to either wait after cooldowns or choose conventional traveling methods that will take well over an hour if not more. This concept applies to even people living on the same island, although not that severely.

I hope you know how long a bot travels from one point of the island to another and then back again. Low movement speeds, no internal teleports and highways, coupled with difficult terrains and you can be sure the next 40-50 minutes of your time are spent on movement. Spark teleportation makes players more efficient and efficient is good. It means players can process more game content and the time they spend playing is more meaningful and fun. There is already way too many threads made by newbies saying that traveling is major PITA, why force it more on players especially for reasons that are not really well understood and situational?

Now we get to the reason you want it changed. The situation of someone engaging your fleet on a beta outpost and making you run to beta terminal. I'll use Domhalarn as an example here of all the 3 islands that are affected by this "phenomenon" that calls for so much public outcry from the minority. First of all, the enemy fleet is most likely fully flagged which means that for 5 minutes they can not mysteriously dock up and be able to spark right where you are going. That is the single and biggest hole in your story, you completely forget the PVP timer that should be big enough buffer to avoid such situations. If there happens to be someone sparking ahead of you, then first of all - you did a bad call to go to the place where you could face overwhelming force and second of all, it's because he chose not to engage and wanted to find more efficient moment to strike.

Number of available sparks is already limited to 10. It's not possible for a group of players to lay sparks all over the place and use the mechanic you think is too overpowered and power projecting. There are 18 beta outposts and terminals, coupled with the fact that people rarely have more than 8 sparks and atleast 1 of them is set to gamma.

If someone decides to commit on one area and use a chunk of their sparks to securing it to the fullest then why can't they?

Because you want to enable both parties to get a few hits in before the fights over.

Lets Take Novastrov for example: If we remember back to the first battle of my last return to play you will see a lot of similarities.

Lets pretend one of us decide we want to own/roam NC and we go to its first sap with 20~guys. You get all dressed up and decide your fits and move out.

All it would take is the proper 3-5 bots to keep that group busy or harassed while you can spark in to Dana and full equip either larger or counter bots to engage from the flank instantly.

Lets pretend I flank with 15 bots that is a rank wall.

Now we can dive down in to who will win or not win but regardless of who does in this situation both parties have a fighting chance if the right calls are made.

There is no possible way a new player who is limited on his in-game ability and must rely heavily on his knowledge of the game to overcome fights will be able to combat or even acknowledge what is happening as they die.

I can count the FC"s who could even give me a run for my money If I was the defender on 1 hand. If this is the number of players who have the knowledge and awareness to combat this then how is this possibly good for the game?

EDIT: by no means should gamma sparking be limited. I know these are extreme situations I am bringing up but they will be common in a flourishing environment.

Corp hopping abuse potential. Corp hopping would need a cool down too.

Lemon, I understand why you and others don't actively play. I was unsubbed, all 5 of my accounts, for a month. Thats my longest break. I choose to sub 5 accounts now simply to play a little and give the devs that one extra beer with their pizza.

My point wasn't to get you to return to the game now. It's that the mechanic you think is broken is only overpowered now because of the CURRENT game politics. Under NORMAL game conditions it wouldn't be (and wasn't) an issue. Yes the nature of PvP CHANGED when it was introduced, but it didn't die because of it.

Unfortunately, it seems most from your "side" tend to post these threadnaughts pushing for a change of a mechanic AFTER it no longer affects you. And you all mainly seem to simply repeat, ad nausem, change it, it's broken, change it, and ignore or simply scream politics when someone else has a dissenting opinion. The gamma base ewar mechanics and Jita come to mind, he repeated endlessly in that thread how he lost his base due to a broken mechanic while continuously ignoring the fact that he simply didn't understand the mechanic.

Apparently Gamma Bases are impregnable. In reality they are not. Even ours can be breached if someone puts the effort in. We put the effort into breaching others. Your "side" doesn't feel like putting the in game effort in to breaching ours so a forum campaign to change mechanics is mounted instead.

Your "side" ran a "what happens in June?" Forum campaign. Other than losing your gamma, nothing happened.
Your "side" ran a "gifting accounts" campaign, long after "shared accounts" were used.

All these forum campaigns run after conditions changed for your "side" in game. Never while your "side" was taking advantage of them.

Funny thing is my personal opinion is close to yours on the account gifting, but differs on all the others.
And individually, I take most of what you (Lemon), Mongolia, and some of what Gunner says as free of politics. I just don't agree with it. Thats all.

You guys would probably have a lot more credibility if you did not raise these issues after they do not affect you and if you were still actively playing. Just saying. It's your choice and for your reasons you don't play.

For the most part I'm sorta done with this thread now, it's starting to go in circles.