Topic: [Skill] Refining

The waste reduced by this skill is way to low. I have this on lvl 6 but I still loose very much of my raw ore when refining. I think you really should have a look at it.
There is no sense in mining an hour and loose around 30% to the refinery. That's actually why I play so few times atm... I just do not see any progress in my character since I need to mine really a lot to get the NIC I need due to the loss as nobody is buying raw ore. I would like to see a bigger increase in wastage reduction for this skill.
regards

Re: [Skill] Refining

I didnt check those mats a lot but i think it works like this:
Base wastage is 30% of mats needed.
Each refining extension level lowers by 30%
At level10, 0% wastage?

Re: [Skill] Refining

Bambi - no

with refining 6 you got a bit less then 50% wastage...
I dont think you can get to zero wastage with just the extension.

both of you forgot, that theres a second influence on your refining, that isn't active yet:
factional standing with the refinery

Re: [Skill] Refining

Indeed, I see 2 "%" status when I look in the refining, recycling etc near the top right part of the window. One for skill the other for faction standing, do missions (when it's working as intended) and you'll probably get your waste to 10% or lower.

If there was to be a re-balance I could only suggest that base standing not have as heavy an influence. I mean why if a base likes you should you not be as good at refining? are they stealing your ore and you have to write it off as waste? I'd imagine with good base relations you would not have to pay any hardcore tax of fee's on using the machinery and that would be the money you'd save not waste you have to write off.

So maybe with skill based waste reduction and a faction bonus to make using the machinery cost you less NIC. then all the dots are connected and it makes actual sense. (to me anyways tongue)

But I don't really mind either way when it comes down to the mechanics of it, it will end up costing the same in the end.

Last edited by Jaigan (2010-03-01 14:57:02)

Re: [Skill] Refining

refining is for free, just like recycling.

you can call the wastage the payment wink

Re: [Skill] Refining

I will try to check tomorrow the correct number, but i remember doing some maths, and calculated i had some 18% wastage with lvl6 refining.
This % is % of the total base raw mats, maybe ...
But will check that to be sure ^^

Re: [Skill] Refining

My understanding that you will need to have both good standing and a refining skill of 10 to get 100% returns on refines. It is possible, though.

Yeah, I believe 18% is about right at level 6 with no standings (where my ind alt is at right now).