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The greifing potential is still there.  If you have sufficient force to drive off the can owers, then you can deny them the contents of the can, even though you cannot take those contents yourself.  Killing the can owers, you still get their drop contents.  But there is no reason for cans to function differently on beta than on alpha.  On beta, you you have to defend the can and the assets on the field to keep what is in it, otherwise the contents can be denied to you.

However, I see nothing wrong with creating multiple catagories of cans, secure and unsecure, with increased cost.  A secured can, password protected, would cost more than an unsecured.  Also, cans having unlimited capacity is just insane, there should be different size cans, from small to enormous, unsecured and secured, with increasing costs as to size.

Personally, at least for beta, I think I'd like destroyable cans that drop loot in the same way as destroyed bots do. I mean they should have a respectable amount of hp (no drivebys with a couple of light EWars destroying a can). In fact even destroyable with no loot would be preferable to the "Hey lets sit here for 15mins to make sure the guy can't get his can"

Make feild containers like loot cans. Increase the duration to 20 min, they lock for 15 min, then they unlock for the last 5.

Care to elaborate?

+1 for being able to shoot cans open (on beta).

Less hp's and tiny hit size. That way it won't take an ewar 100 years to blast one open, but medium weapons won't one shot them.

Shoot can's open, or destroy them?

Using guns/lasers/missles as lockpicks doesn't sound that safe, better at least have a chance of destroying the can, and getting nothing.

- 1 for can drop content .
Having the possibility to loot a part of can is in most case identical to allow the roaming group to get as much epi/noralgis as they can carry. I'm not in pvp since wall come into game, but before we had a clear favorite of roams vs miners, as you are better off in attack than in defend in most cases.

still in most cases nobody would bring a scarab to a hostile pvp island just to get some can loot. yes some pirate ppl might think of this as a good idea. but in general it will olny bring more grief. miners are prey to any pvp. why give them more? i dont see a reason. kill the hauler that gets there to collect it if you want loot. and then bring yours to get it. this is enough... if you cant be patient then its your problem.

Dazamin - did you ever see what someone can do with your field can contents after he has hacked the pw?

pull - delete - pull - delete - pull - delete .... im sure thats an easy macro to do.

it doesn't even need a single round fired to destroy the content of a field can.

if you come with 10 ppl to find a container so give everybody in your squad 1000 numbers to try. so you can open the continer in a reasonable ammount of time for sure. or even fast if you are lucky or the owner is stupid enough to use a stupid code. (like 1234.. oh wait thats my code. and change the code on my container at once!)

Yeah this is the main thing, it just doesn't make any sense, and works in a opposite way to almost everything else in game. Also, random standing around is no fun on SAPs and unlikely to be any better on cans.