Perpetuum Forums — Disable passwords for beta field containers

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Ville) — Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:20:45 +0000

try 1111 works for most stc.

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Dazamin) — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 01:17:39 +0000

Sundial wrote:

I like the destroying cans idea the most, I have no desire to wait at someones deployable can for 10 minutes when I can:
a. blow up their teleporters
b. blow up their bombs
c. blow up pretty much anything they can deploy
Cans should not be totally safe. Also just the concept of them being invincible + unlimited storage is just odd to say the least.

Yeah this is the main thing, it just doesn't make any sense, and works in a opposite way to almost everything else in game. Also, random standing around is no fun on SAPs and unlikely to be any better on cans.

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Sundial) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 15:44:52 +0000

I like the destroying cans idea the most, I have no desire to wait at someones deployable can for 10 minutes when I can:

a. blow up their teleporters
b. blow up their bombs
c. blow up pretty much anything they can deploy

Cans should not be totally safe. Also just the concept of them being invincible + unlimited storage is just odd to say the least.

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Syrissa) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:42 +0000

if you come with 10 ppl to find a container so give everybody in your squad 1000 numbers to try. so you can open the continer in a reasonable ammount of time for sure. or even fast if you are lucky or the owner is stupid enough to use a stupid code. (like 1234.. oh wait thats my code. and change the code on my container at once!)

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Egil) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:27 +0000

Dazamin wrote:

To those qqing about Miners being easy prey for PvPers. DEFEND YOUR MINERS!!!!!! If you don't, they should be easy prey, and the can should be lootable in the same way the mining bot itself is. The argument here is nothing to do with what makes sense, it sounds like you feel theres something wrong with miners being killed, and therefore the nasty ppl that do it shouldn't be rewarded..................

Annihilator wrote:

Dazamin - did you ever see what someone can do with your field can contents after he has hacked the pw?
pull - delete - pull - delete - pull - delete .... im sure thats an easy macro to do.
it doesn't even need a single round fired to destroy the content of a field can.

Dazamin wrote:

To those qqing about Miners being easy prey for PvPers. DEFEND YOUR MINERS!!!!!! If you don't, they should be easy prey, and the can should be lootable in the same way the mining bot itself is. The argument here is nothing to do with what makes sense, it sounds like you feel theres something wrong with miners being killed, and therefore the nasty ppl that do it shouldn't be rewarded..................

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Annihilator) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:59:43 +0000

Dazamin - did you ever see what someone can do with your field can contents after he has hacked the pw?

pull - delete - pull - delete - pull - delete .... im sure thats an easy macro to do.

it doesn't even need a single round fired to destroy the content of a field can.

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Dazamin) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:31:28 +0000

To those qqing about Miners being easy prey for PvPers. DEFEND YOUR MINERS!!!!!! If you don't, they should be easy prey, and the can should be lootable in the same way the mining bot itself is. The argument here is nothing to do with what makes sense, it sounds like you feel theres something wrong with miners being killed, and therefore the nasty ppl that do it shouldn't be rewarded..................

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Syrissa) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:21:55 +0000

still in most cases nobody would bring a scarab to a hostile pvp island just to get some can loot. yes some pirate ppl might think of this as a good idea. but in general it will olny bring more grief. miners are prey to any pvp. why give them more? i dont see a reason. kill the hauler that gets there to collect it if you want loot. and then bring yours to get it. this is enough... if you cant be patient then its your problem.

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Karism) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:43:44 +0000

+1 to when the can is below a certain time left it unlocks. (Arga's suggestion)

-1 to being unlocked by default or being destroyable.

Remember you can use a cargo scanner to see what is inside locked cans, so its not like you couldn't tell whether sticking around for a can to open would be worth it.

Think of it as a kind of mini-event in Pvp like a sap, roaming gang comes across a mining/farming squad on beta, either kills them or they get away, and the can is left, lets say it has a decent amount of something nice stuff in there, like epriton/kernals/decoders/noralgis/etc, which is discovered via a cargo scanner, the gang then has to defend the can for the next X amount of time to get at the stuff inside (maybe bring haulers in from elsewhere), which give a little bit of motavation besides waiting for it to pop to deny the original owners of their loot/minerals.

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Goffer) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:38:31 +0000

- 1 for can drop content .
Having the possibility to loot a part of can is in most case identical to allow the roaming group to get as much epi/noralgis as they can carry. I'm not in pvp since wall come into game, but before we had a clear favorite of roams vs miners, as you are better off in attack than in defend in most cases.

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Dazamin) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:42:36 +0000

Arga wrote:

Less hp's and tiny hit size. That way it won't take an ewar 100 years to blast one open, but medium weapons won't one shot them.
Shoot can's open, or destroy them?
Using guns/lasers/missles as lockpicks doesn't sound that safe, better at least have a chance of destroying the can, and getting nothing.

I would use the same mechanic as killing a bot and him dropping loot, can destroyed 50/50 chance on items, I mean you open a can with missiles something will probably get dmg'd

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Arga) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:36:16 +0000

Less hp's and tiny hit size. That way it won't take an ewar 100 years to blast one open, but medium weapons won't one shot them.

Shoot can's open, or destroy them?

Using guns/lasers/missles as lockpicks doesn't sound that safe, better at least have a chance of destroying the can, and getting nothing.

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Teleguy) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:38:13 +0000

Everything is so safe. +1 for less safe things

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Kaldenines) — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:43:32 +0000

+1 for being able to shoot cans open (on beta).

Re: Disable passwords for beta field containers

null@example.com (Tux) — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:33:14 +0000

-1 to no passwords on cans, I can think of all kinds of ways to exploit this.

+1 to allowing cans to be killed ... should have at least 15K HP or some where around the level of a destruction sap.