Re: Armor repper tuning change

Because you are asking strange questions and talk about the game of shooting.
I suggest to change name "Perpetuum" to Line Age of robots or RoboStrike.

Everyone should understand that any balancing generates only new a disbalance.

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Re: Armor repper tuning change

Inda wrote:

Not useless, why useless?? Just not OP, then anybody fitting other thing they has more chance to hit, kill your repairer tank mechs. Just this all.

Properly fitted 5 assaults will kill 3+ pre-nerfed erp tanks. The question is in fit.

28 (edited by Hunter 2011-08-26 10:52:25)

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Inda wrote:

Hunter we didnt able to kill Ariandspoon, and S T u G in Kain mk2 with a few mechs so its was op i think, because then everybody was need it.

lol... i can kill them in duel with tyranos smile

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Re: Armor repper tuning change

BTW guys I dont like changes. So mainly I dont want these many change. ( I just read Hunter wubsribes)

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Hunter yes because you knows him fittings, and the 1v1 with them is other thing.

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Hunter wrote:

First build a couple of lines of heavy robots, and then lose it. After that I'll be glad to talk with you about balancing.

i know, if i had access to a lvl3 refinery,
lvl4-6 Missions,
epriton fields,
and more then two mining agents, fully fitted in t4 rivielers and
lvl9 decoders

I could easily build 1 heavy mech per hour.

The Head and legslot equipment is the same as used in assaults, and the medium weapon stuff, i dont know about how hard it is to build at t4 with the briochit requirement.

BUT the topic was about Repair tunings, and the higher ones really had an increadible bonus to all aspects of repairing, which got multiplied with the recently implemented extensions, and especially the blue bots robot-bonus.

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32 (edited by Hunter 2011-08-26 10:56:55)

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Inda wrote:

Hunter yes because you knows him fittings, and the 1v1 with them is other thing.

Do you understand what you said now?
This means that you can not kill our Kains, complained to the developers and they have done for you this patch?

Everyone should understand that any balancing generates only new a disbalance.

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33 (edited by Hunter 2011-08-26 10:59:00)

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That is, first you have asked for hokkogaros highway. Then the enemies were using it and you are asked to remove. Then failed to kill the chaos and ... What next?

*popcorn*

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Annihilator wrote:
Hunter wrote:

First build a couple of lines of heavy robots, and then lose it. After that I'll be glad to talk with you about balancing.

i know, if i had access to a lvl3 refinery,
lvl4-6 Missions,
epriton fields,
and more then two mining agents, fully fitted in t4 rivielers and
lvl9 decoders

I could easily build 1 heavy mech per hour.

The Head and legslot equipment is the same as used in assaults, and the medium weapon stuff, i dont know about how hard it is to build at t4 with the briochit requirement.

BUT the topic was about Repair tunings, and the higher ones really had an increadible bonus to all aspects of repairing, which got multiplied with the recently implemented extensions, and especially the blue bots robot-bonus.

no, you can't: http://www.perp-kill.net/?m=agent&name=Annihilator

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Hunter, i try to said, you knownd they fitts with Kains, and you can counter fitt with Tyrannos thats what i am said. Or try (my bad englsih damm.. )

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I can not continue the conversation. Have to go. I'll be back later.

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Inda wrote:

Hunter, i try to said, you knownd they fitts with Kains, and you can counter fitt with Tyrannos thats what i am said. Or try (my bad englsih damm.. )

Inda dont tell me you dont know whats erp tanks fittings.

Re: Armor repper tuning change

Alex before fight most of us didnt think about that is good like that. I think is good, and i couldnt try it because i am poor i cant try fitiings :S I just could math i can do but is just math not real experiment need that for the real picture.

check this: http://www.perp-kill.net/?m=view&id=3093

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18.01.2014. [12:57:58] <BeastmodeGuNs> after that i remembered all those warning about 1v1 you lol, and i found out why xD

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1 ictus and that kain is dead. problem is in fittings. i cant play game where "i cant kill it with my guns onlyyyyy ;'(" wining supporting by dev.

40 (edited by Inda 2011-08-26 11:20:46)

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Btw Hunter you know Annihilator an old player, you remmeber when he fight with Chaos side??

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41 (edited by Inda 2011-08-26 11:24:35)

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Alex no, the problem is you NEED Ictus to kill him (or neuts), if you dont have you need that same fit then everbody use that fitts. Then you dont need fitts just go out. Thats what you dont like and me too.

I hope we can understand each other i just argueng not wining and other. (but Hunter think i wining or anything about old erp, i didnt post about that i used that)

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Armor rep tuning OP? No.
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43 (edited by Inda 2011-08-26 11:27:47)

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Was OP now fine

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Re: Armor repper tuning change

I would like to remember that this game isn't about Chaos, same as balance in it - isn't about Chaos killing everything.

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Russians want unkillable tanks.
I blame communism.

46 (edited by Line 2011-08-26 12:15:57)

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Just Chaos, not russians. No generalisation plox big_smile

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Sure, doyrcsallotheralfahomeless not russians. COMMUNISM&UBERTANKS! For the win! For the Stalin!

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Re: Armor repper tuning change

In order to make a mech/heavy mech supertanked you "only" needed to sacrifice your speed, weapon range, locking range and locking speed.

Clearly it is a shining pinnacle of brilliant game balancing that those sacrifices were not enough.

No, they were not enough as clearly it was needed that tank-fits should not have the ability to tank either and instead they should be reduced to slowly moving kill-mail pinjatas.

Yet another MMO has been turned in to the pure: HURRR DPS!, DURRR DPS!

*deep sigh*

Re: Armor repper tuning change

Now my unwanted comments from a newer player:

The game lost diversity. Plain and simple. A highly specialised ERP tanked mech (and stupid expensive too) could have some fun in PvP even soloing around.
Now the game favours even more the "hit hard and run fast factor".
It favours ganking. The tools to kill an ERP tanked Mech were already existent ingame before the patch.
But obviously almost nobody bothered to use them.
Of course an Ictus works best in this situation ... but a bunch of cheap assaults with 1 neutralizer each or 1-2 mechs with neutralizers can do the same. Let alone the mechanics around explosion damage ...
Now there is even less reason to fit neutralizer or take a specialised bot (Ictus) for roaming.
An ERP tanked Mech can tank ... heavily ... that's it.
He isn't fast, has no/almost no tackle, is vulnerable to every kind of e-war, doesn't deal much damage, has no weapon stabs fitted, needs good extensions and is very expensive.
No that's not uber.

Maybe you should watch CHAOS' video how they kill Lemon in his Artemis with Assault Bots?

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