Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Rage Blackout wrote:

Veteran Ewar pilots can do amazing things.

I wouldnt expect anything less.

If by "veteran" you mean having a follow bot then yes indeed.

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Line wrote:
Rage Blackout wrote:

Veteran Ewar pilots can do amazing things.

I wouldnt expect anything less.

If by "veteran" you mean having a follow bot then yes indeed.

If by "veteran" you mean having Mesmer mk2 Seth mk2 maxed out but being counter by a pilot who has 99% of his ep in Vaga mk2 and ewar skills yes indeed.

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Lobo wrote:
Line wrote:
Rage Blackout wrote:

Veteran Ewar pilots can do amazing things.

I wouldnt expect anything less.

If by "veteran" you mean having a follow bot then yes indeed.

If by "veteran" you mean having Mesmer mk2 Seth mk2 maxed out but being counter by a pilot who has 99% of his ep in Vaga mk2 and ewar skills yes indeed.

If your Zenith Mk2 performs 2x sensor supressing and 1x ecm on 1000+ m while being masked then yes for sure that's a veteran. Follows? What are you talking about big_smile

Or if your Ictus burns on 800-1000m - WHY OF COURCE THAT'S BECAUSE HES SO LEET

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

For me this is the right question at the completly wrong time.
In early days we used to have dedicated "support" player in corp, that do nothing else. But those players could only play, when fighters were online. Such player that even for assignments need help had no fun the last 2 years.

Today you can enjoy game only if you are able to do things on your own beside mining on alpha, which means fighter bot is must have.
I hope this changes one day, but until this changes I would not remove approach mechanic.

Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Goffer wrote:

For me this is the right question at the completly wrong time.
In early days we used to have dedicated "support" player in corp, that do nothing else. But those players could only play, when fighters were online. Such player that even for assignments need help had no fun the last 2 years.

Today you can enjoy game only if you are able to do things on your own beside mining on alpha, which means fighter bot is must have.
I hope this changes one day, but until this changes I would not remove approach mechanic.

Thing is, that in half of cases ppl are using masked light-ewar as follow to give RSA. Those aren't dedicated support bots, but even if they are - hey 2 years passed and they didn't leveled anything except supports? What did stopped them to train an assault atleast to get some action?

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Burial wrote:
Norrdec wrote:
Hunter wrote:

http://i.imgur.com/QEdImpj.png How do you like this?.. He have 1+ km ewar range, detector, 2 suppressors
and ECM. This guy paid more for the follow booster with RSAs...

- Bogus screenshot. He has 1km locking range, he is not applying any EWAR to you.
- Your fit is ECORP Mk2, but replace recharger with x2 medium plate.

And since you're evidently batshit ***, I'll reveal the big secret - Farlock NEXUS. There we go, cat is out of the bag. Whoop-de-f*cking-doo.

Those are the guys who say EW is not overpowered. You can't even comprehent a simple picture.

These are the guys who don't know how EW works. When someone supresses or demobs you, you see the icon under your robot status - something you don't see with ECM.

Evidently you also have no clue how interference emitters work. We were shooting them at you for hours before you cottoned on and tried launching some back at us.

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Train Ewar

DEV Zoom - "If you mean the NPC aggro, that's been like that for months already."

Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Nerf the follow

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Norrdec wrote:
Burial wrote:
Norrdec wrote:

- Bogus screenshot. He has 1km locking range, he is not applying any EWAR to you.
- Your fit is ECORP Mk2, but replace recharger with x2 medium plate.

And since you're evidently batshit ***, I'll reveal the big secret - Farlock NEXUS. There we go, cat is out of the bag. Whoop-de-f*cking-doo.

Those are the guys who say EW is not overpowered. You can't even comprehent a simple picture.

These are the guys who don't know how EW works. When someone supresses or demobs you, you see the icon under your robot status - something you don't see with ECM.

Evidently you also have no clue how interference emitters work. We were shooting them at you for hours before you cottoned on and tried launching some back at us.

"Considerably Better Then You"

Okai, let me explain this picture to you. Hunter has opened his own Zenith MK2 info screen up when the suppressors were present. When the picture actually got taken, the suppressors did not apply but the info screen still shows the suppressed values.

Zenith MK2 is not Gunner. You can't see other peoples stats like that and you also don't need to have suppressors running at the moment of doing the picture when you open info screen.

What Hunter is trying to point out is that while double-amped, a suppressor is able to completely jack him up at extreme ranges.

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You mean he's trying to point out supressors do what they're supposed to do, reducing lock time and speed?

If the supressors aren't running, who's to say at what range he took that picture before backing up and pressing print-screen?

He can be either double-amped or double-RSA'd. It's a bad fit and a bad picture that's tailored to serve one of your current goals of metagaming the Devs - nerfing ewar so you can roll around with 5-6 multiboxed heavy mk2's and spam spacebar.

Ewar is the paper to the rock of spamming tanked heavies. The only problem here is that you're butthurt because your rock can't beat paper, so paper needs nerf. Go find scissors then come back, those of us who actually PVPed in this game found all that sh*t out years ago the hard way.

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

But I only specced into spacebar L10!!!!!!!1111111!!!

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87 (edited by Burial 2013-12-19 16:24:30)

Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

wrong thread woops.

Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Zoom, what other ideas you have for a follow-bot nerf?

89 (edited by Rage Blackout 2013-12-20 02:32:48)

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That is what they are meant to do at max skills.  Max skills Seth mk2 shoots at long *** range...  Gropho MK2 can shoot at 1100+,    Zenith counters these    --      All end game stuff         --    shrug

Hunter can have a friend RSA him, that is what we do.

Do you guys even work together?  Teamwork?

You guys are outclassed


sigh





I think you are just trolling at this point.



Burial wrote:
Norrdec wrote:
Burial wrote:

Those are the guys who say EW is not overpowered. You can't even comprehent a simple picture.

These are the guys who don't know how EW works. When someone supresses or demobs you, you see the icon under your robot status - something you don't see with ECM.

Evidently you also have no clue how interference emitters work. We were shooting them at you for hours before you cottoned on and tried launching some back at us.

"Considerably Better Then You"

Okai, let me explain this picture to you. Hunter has opened his own Zenith MK2 info screen up when the suppressors were present. When the picture actually got taken, the suppressors did not apply but the info screen still shows the suppressed values.

Zenith MK2 is not Gunner. You can't see other peoples stats like that and you also don't need to have suppressors running at the moment of doing the picture when you open info screen.

What Hunter is trying to point out is that while double-amped, a suppressor is able to completely jack him up at extreme ranges.

DEV Zoom - "If you mean the NPC aggro, that's been like that for months already."

90 (edited by Rage Blackout 2013-12-20 02:27:04)

Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

We will always have Nexus and RSA because we work as a team.

We communicate.

We plan.

We are always together doing pve or pvp or whatever.



What do you to?

http://i.imgur.com/ceMz6pj.jpg

Line wrote:

Nerf the follow

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Rage Blackout wrote:

We will always have Nexus and RSA because we work as a team.

We communicate.

We plan.

We are always together doing pve or pvp or whatever.



What do you to?

http://i.imgur.com/ceMz6pj.jpg

Line wrote:

Nerf the follow

Playing says 2 bots both manually controlled by different players giving RSA to each other - that's one thing. Having masked light ewar on follow for the same role - that's lame and needs to be nerfed, that's it. Think wider, bro.

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60 people play Perpetuum? Hmm we should be more big_smile

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Rage Blackout wrote:

That is what they are meant to do at max skills.  Max skills Seth mk2 shoots at long *** range...  Gropho MK2 can shoot at 1100+,    Zenith counters these

MAsked Zenith can always get closer. There is no need to stay as far as you can being totally safe. Ewar doesn't have LoS restriction so that's another advantage over the guns which are way harder to tune on such range than a ewar.

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Line wrote:
Rage Blackout wrote:

That is what they are meant to do at max skills.  Max skills Seth mk2 shoots at long *** range...  Gropho MK2 can shoot at 1100+,    Zenith counters these

MAsked Zenith can always get closer. There is no need to stay as far as you can being totally safe. Ewar doesn't have LoS restriction so that's another advantage over the guns which are way harder to tune on such range than a ewar.


Gropho has very little LOS issues..  A target painted zenith cant get any were near close because it can be seen at the next iland.

How will nerfing followbots not benefit us?  you guys are the ones who run alts in rivlers/symbionts whit your Heavy mech fleets.

Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Jibril mazit wrote:

How will nerfing followbots not benefit us?  you guys are the ones who run alts in rivlers/symbionts whit your Heavy mech fleets.

Why do you argue at all? It's not about nerfing RSA or NEXUS stuff, it's about follow exploiting.

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

We've been saying that follow-bots need to be removed from the game for a long time. It seems due to incompetence, lesser minds only catch up to superior intellects after a year or two.

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Line a forum warrior rarely seen on the field of combat. It's like the guy in finance telling the infantry soldier he's doing it wrong nothing more to see here move along.

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Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

Don't nerf the follow thingy, I'm lazy.

Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

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100 (edited by Jibril mazit 2013-12-20 18:32:01)

Re: Poll: The "followbot" mechanic

like he said u had 1 kill this wole month.  Or did u not understand RARELY seen?

now that i looked alitle closer to that link it seems u are cheating ur way up the killboard.  Before they die you seem to shot your own side.   only mongolia and balf is the only 2 kills u were on that wasent ur side.