That's absolutely correct.

OR .. decrease the size of all ores again ... so the Devs have less pressure on them to roll out a new larger Hauler. Honestly I don't go out to mine a filed unless I wipe the whole thing ... smaller ore sizes would allow more efficient transportation of the minerals to and from destinations ... beta to alpha beta to gamma or where ever.

But there needs to be something done .... there is a PROBLEM when you can change the location of ONE ore and totally change the dynamics of the game in such a large way Epriton needs to be removed from Gamma structures when its removed from Gamma Islands

They have just nerfed the hell out of gamma islands, not only there is no missions to do here now u can't be self sufficient in terms of materials.

Before gamma launched, no one thought it would have epi on it, simply because it would be too self-suffcient. One thing mentioned was a corp just walling off the teleports and living on gamma; which is basically what happened.

The terraforming and building was supposed to be the draw to gamma, but there was so much hype about players needing more 'space' to hide in / ninja mine, that I think they broke down and put epi in to satisfy that.

It's supposed to be hard to build on gamma. We spent a lot of effort even getting the materials to open up the teleporters.

So, when people get used to something one way and it's removed, then its a nerf (I'm looking at you sparks), but in reality gamma really shouldn't have had all the mats on it.

At this time, the draw of building is over (imo), so the luster of gamma itself is no longer a suffcient draw. Which in the life cycle of mmo's is about on schedulde.

Perp doesn't need a high profile expansion, but it does need to expand to keep maintain interest. And that's where gamma is at, it needs a new 'reason' to be there. Keeping it dependant on beta is fine, but if the gamma draw isn't there, then play will just drop to the lowest energy state, which turns out to now be beta... which is the only self-suffcient islands left (see titan reversal, and expect titan removal incoming).

Again, you've isloated one piece of the overall experience, and minimalized it.

You'll see soon enough, the level of effort to operate a gamma base will go up significantly, not because they have removed epi, but because they have ADDED the need for hours of logistics.

But, while I don't really like the way your saying it, I don't disagree that if players are willing to put in the extra effort they will get the same benefit from gamma as they did before.

I also don't think that anyone is actually against what I'm saying, is that they should add some more incentive to gamma to bring it back to balance.

I disagree. I think it was intended that corps would have to maintain a presence on beta, or build an alliance with a beta corp for continued access to epi; which they will need for bots and modules anyway.

As I mentioned before, it really came as a surprise when epi was available on gamma in the first place.

No it doesn't it makes spamming turrets harder.

Epriton and colix needs to be removed from t4/structures, because i can't build it on alpha...

sarcasm. it's your problem. mine on beta or leave gamma.

Guys, why do you always want to
oversimplify the game? Do you want to play without a problem - play on the test server. Ask trillions resources, EP and NICs  and play there.

When players first came here - there was NOTHING! Built T1, extracted resources on the arkhes, etc. And no one died. who would - has succeeded.
Agents have adapted to the world of
Nia. The Weakest Link - extinct (left the game).

Adding to chemist post:  Tree from bush grow hands from ***.  Purple donkey fire hydrant goat blood leaf ash.  Giant heave go must tractor irony destroy cactus.  Simplistic junction river moat divide multitude canyon bridge.

You're the only one who understands
me.