Yeah, I noticed that too. I wondered about that, since I havn't been to beta since the safe zone was removed, it seemed like a gate camp group could still be able to pre-lock then alpha strike any none double plated tank dead; since you can't turn on any modules.

This may lead to a little more exploring on my part. Course, a Skurd with a 4 second lock time could probably still get off an alpha strike

P.S. Also intended for there to be a 3-5 second delay on protection dropping on movement?

Uh-huh?

I beg your pardon, but it was/is not a bug at all, but the very design of the game that the molecular instability timer lasts 5s longer than the syndicate protection timer.

The reason for designing the timers to NOT to overlap for their full durations was to DISENABLE the ability to be completely immortal at Beta islands and with this latest patch they just re-enabled the immortality yet again!

I guess now you are asking what exactly do I mean with “yet again”? Well let me explain myself then...

My memory is somewhat vague of all the details and as such people who have better memory than me can correct if I make mistakes on details. 

After the launch there were small circle of protected zone at the beta island entry gates and naturally people abused the hell out of this safe zone. GotEvil and his Kain sitting whole day at the protection zone should bring nostalgic memories to those that played the game in Domhalarn back in the day.

I can’t remember any more if it was a design or if it broke down in some patch, but regardless there was a period of time where the protection timer and instability timers overlapped full their full duration and yet again as is natural people abused the hell out of this up until the dev team fixed it.

Then there was a time where protection timers and instability timers indeed did not overlap, but the protection timer could be exploited to restart by players who knew how to pull the exploit off.

I never quite got how people pulled the exploit off (it had something to do on jumping from one character to another to generate lag spike?), but abusing this bug was running widely and rampant until the dev time finally heard the outcry of the people being completely sick and tired of the exploiting and they fixed it.

And fastforward and here we are at present day, but this time it is the Devs that have decided to bring back the immortality to the Beta islands.

Ironically your signature more or less sums up the situation: “Take the long way around back to square one”

We are now indeed back to the square one: November 18 or 25, 2010, with safe zones around teleporters and outposts.

Difference in timers - 5s. Locking time (if leveled and fitted properly) - 4s. As an additional - random position after jump, even out of tele range. So you still able to kill the jumper, it's just harder

In my opinion he major problem in old behavior was that you could land outside place to jump back and getting demobed before you could move inside teleport range so even if you'r fitted to withstand 10-20 sec fire, you might end up dead from the time you ported.

With the new locking time, you might get alphaed, but that is just in rare case for bots with some protection. And you have at least 4s to run back in tp range what should help in any case.

With armor tuners now being heaver AND less effective its had a double nerf.

With weapon tuners being reduced in weight AND given crit chance its had a double boost.   So there is never any reason for the old lemon fit...  in fact, there is never any reason to tank at all now, in anything. 

Even the Kains bonus to armor repping means nothing,  since everyone now has a much higher DPS capability.

The game is now about who can shoot first... so the Artemis, with it already having a crit bonus can now fit loads of weapon tuners, crit nexus, you get between 30 / 40% crit chance..

so either you fit the old lemon, and get destroyed because everyone has huge crit, and you cant rep anymore or you yourself fit for pure dps and hope to hit them first.

i noticed it trying to step>lock with my follow bot and there is a delay both mechanically and visually.

Folks again right now there is a drought of PvP and from my experience the past few months the second i undock any enamys that were around run. The only time i got pvp was sitting on a Gate waiting for someone to try and poke there head in to beta (a risky move).

Now, i log in and have mouths run while little lights/assaults cry on the gate for a fight and immediately jump out safely.

Beta is like a Prison now with the beta players on the inside of the cell and people can take a tour now of all the cells and spit on everyone until they see someone whimpy enough to open the cell door and come in to beat on someone they actually can.

TL:DR Let me F**k**G Shoot someone.

Why did i lose my ability to give these kids the fight they so well wish for?

But you see if they are randomly dropped there is a risk as they would be on island.

Now there is no risk and no pvp.

Just drop external tps from game and make a huge mother f** continent!

Try fighting in an assult for once, maybe people won't "run away" when they see you.

What do you mean downgrade... I already busted his *** down to a Prometheus. And I bet the next thing I'm gonna hear before my vacation is done is that the little whiny b*tch has been running around with 2 Med. Autocannons on his Prom wiping people... again.

Pls nerf machineguns/autocannons so I don't have to listen to his QQ for more T4 autocannons/machineguns.