Cendre just lost the thread with the %s she just posted.

If you think pvpers living on beta (not f*ding* bate) are .05% that would be less tha 10 players, assuming we have under 2000 active players.  I'm sure you realize there's many more living full time on beta, not considering those who frequent beta but not living from a beta outpost.

You failed so hard here.

More islands would help to localize pvp making it so not everyone is getting ganked 10 times a day or until they have not bots left to pilot.

You are still making blanket statements you cannot possibly back up.

Its my opinion more than a statement. I would love to be proven wrong ...it would make me very happy.

Where do you get your numbers from? They seem suspiciously like, mmmmm, a guess of what you think or want them to be......this game, EvE and a few others would have highly different numbers using these categories you made up. I mention EvE in this because a large number of people here are from EvE or used to be players of EvE.

.05% of the population is PvP? are you seriously saying that there are only 0.3 PvP players in this game? and 30 semi? There has been a peak number of users of approx. 600 according to several sources.
Get a sense of reality, don't spout off made up numbers, at least try to stick close to some semblance of truth, and then you might, just might, get a bit of credibility. I highly doubt it though since you are ranting about how bad PvP and PvP players are in a PvP game.
Maybe this is not the game for you, perhaps Hello Kitty online or SecondLife is more your speed.

CanDre, your primary flaw (aside from overgeneralizing, making appeals to an authority that doesn't exist, being presumptuous about what others want, and a host of spelling mistakes and grammatical errors) is that you do not account for the fact that Perpetuum is a niche game. Perpetuum is not made for people satisfied with WoW. Perpetuum is, by its nature, a game made to appeal to a minority of players who do not have trouble with at least occasional PvP being forced on them.

I may be incorrect--I don't know what the devs want out of the game's design--but from what I've seen the message is pretty clear: Perpetuum is made for a small population of dedicated people who like a living economy and a PvP-rich world.

This has been said already, but the game does not have enough population yet, therefore more islands are not necessary.

In fact, adding islands now would be a bad thing, because all the people who want to pvp will be scattered across a larger area and won't run into each other as much. That means less pvp and thus more people finding the game disappointing.

You are looking at it the wrong way round.

I think as the playerbase increases the devs will gradually add more land (or so I hope).

This game is not aimed at the vast majority of players. From the things other posters have said, there is room for non-PvPers in this game, because there are protected areas where they can spend all their time if they so wish.

The games you mentioned in your OP did not fail because they were PvP games. First, has Aion failed? Please provide statistics showing whether or not it is making a profit for NCSoft. Second, Mortal Online is lacking subscribers for various reasons, none of which are due to the fact that it is an open pvp game.

Edit: Had to check the OP for the other games you mentioned. I never played Shadowbane so I'm not sure why that closed down in the end. As for Darkfall, it's still going. You can't call it a raging success, but it hasn't collapsed yet. And again, it had a lot of flawed mechanics that put people off it, particularly when many of them thought it was going to be the next UO and it wasn't even close.

I'm not really sure why this thread was even made... This is a pvp-centric game with a hardcore consequence rule set. It revolves around fighting and controlling beta island resources.  This is one of the few games that caters to an under served market. There's plenty of product in the saturated carebear market..

What are your views on PvP?     06/29/2003     3     42344     Open
   
I don't like PvP combat. - 22.1%
I think it is the best part about MMORPG's. - 41.4%
I don't care either way. - 36.5%

Taken from MMORPG.com's polls. With 42,344 votes. I'm no mathematician, but I can't find the 0.5% could you help point it out?

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Just found the game a few hours ago. Looks, or sounds, like a number of Eve players here. I started Eve at about the same point in its life. After 7 years 86% of the population spends its time in high sec. (PvE land , for the most part), never has been that great exodus to free for all land.

i would love to see the ability to war dec.. atleast we would nvr see m2s out of the stations.. u m2s guys would have so mny enemies u couldnt peak outside the sttion.. why u ask.. ur a bunch o cocky bstages. but cheers guess u earned that in open beta walkin round in heavies poppin light bots.anyhownow that thats out of the way. got a few things to say bout this thread. imho they need to open the pvp area up a bit. why. take eve for example. strted with about the same sub base but had about another 50 billion miles worth of exploration. wht would b so bad about havin to travel a bit or aactuaally search for ur prey. i ca deal with that. i currently live in beta and jus the other day saw the same grp every 10 minutes as they hoped from one iland to the next. unlike in eve its to ez. we need the care bears eve proved that. cant live without em. they supply us with much neded stuff and r ez targets for pretentious *** like some people i alrdy mentioned.  well just got a call gotta run will continue thislater. as a side note yes iknow how to spell and use punctuation. but im typing on a kindle which isnt ez.also. allopinions stated r absolutely true the facts and stats i jus pulled out of my ***. 

savin lives aint ez. taken em is. bring it