turrets will be fun idea cuz they will add some new tacticz and sorta. just need to be limited somehow in numbers - no need to build them all over the island ^^

Only mine when you have protection?

in other words: if you did not somehow tank your mining mech to survive more then 10minutes, your dead.

noone can reach you that fast, nor can you escape. The only methods to do so got nerfed down to unusable: mobile teleport beacons.

put combat mechs next to you while you mine this game is about playing when others are playing its Massively Multiplayer. If miners leave then mineral value increases so people start mining to make all that sweet sweet mineral money

Thread requires deployable turrets to protect from Hijacking.

Turrets wouldn't really do what you are asking for here, which is to create a safe zone to mine in.

The greatest weakness is that the turret would be stationary, so to realize the effect, you would need to stay in the area. If you try to leave, the aggressor can kill you without having to deal with the turret, but if you stay, they can attack the turret instead.

Any defensive item like this that would be capable of withstanding an extended attack would be way too overpowered. So eventually an attacker is going to over come the turret and kill you anyway.

About the only thing it 'could' be useful for would be defense against a solo light fast roamer, but a sheild would also protect you from that, but better because you could also run away to safety.

Deployable drones, modified NPC's, would be more suited to the game. Although it would require the dev's to write a new AI script to provide defensive behaviour. The problem would be that deploying a NPC Prometheus type drone would have to be priced in the Millions of NIC, and would be a one-time shot; there isn't a game mechanism to put one back in inventory once its deployed on the field.

Turrets will have increased range, like about 200m. And so if enemy wont attack turrets but waiting outside of its range? Miner will call for help or even do logoff. Medium turrets would be able to handle few lights or even assault bot. Especially rocket turrets will be effective because of ignoring landscape.

Yeah, enemies could attack miner first, but if there is two turrets standing close to it... attackers will have heavy casualties before they will finish with miner. So for successfull attack they need to be in many numbers, not just 3 light bots.

make game comfortable for all?

As a solo miner I find it unfair that people have friends and choose to use combat robots I propose a Time out module that freezes all robots that aren't me so I can get away

Anyway there must be something allows to provide more defense on the beta without other players. Lot of players complaining now about lack of turrets and they are almost on the boiling point to ragequit this game. Do devs want that? I dont think so.

They pushed us on beta so hard, but there is no ways to help to protect it. I still remember the time when me and my corp started to mine with protection there came lots and lots of termises from other corps to mine because they didnt had any protection. Whould they play only for that happy moments. No.

the more friends you bring, the more desperate roaming groups you will attract...

if your group big enough to defend against an intakt roaming group, they will come back with a mech group, because they have nothing else to do, and they know your location.

hurray, at the end, nothing changed.

Anni,

Its true. PVP players are starving/desperate for combat. This is also why more land won't solve the issue either. PVP players will roam in fast bots all day looking for miners to gank, or even better protected miners that will give them a good fight.

They are just looking for a good fight, I don't blame them as that is their game, but if miners wanted to fight they would have combat characters.

Something else in the game needs to change, not turrets sorry, to generate more combat for PVP players to pull them away from the miners in general. Basically to create some breathing room for miners to operate with some chance of sucess.

As it is now, the only space a miner gets is to wait for the ever decreasing number of PVP players to get bored and quit, or find a dead spot in the beta logins to exploit. Even then the other islands will roam over looking.

As Alex said in anther thread, the only action they get now days is the odd sequar of miner that doesnt read the intel channel.

Really, how many times does the game expect miners to undock and get blown up before they to just stop undocking; the CEO's are probably also frustrated because they aren't getting the ore they need so the whole Corp is under pressue. Or the CEO just stops logging in also, and the corp members stop logging in too, both combat and miners.

The situation is coming to a head. If the next patch doesn't correct the current trend, we can expect players to just stay with away until maybe the next patch, but it will certainly be dead between.

Not every player in the game has friends playing. People join corps to help meet people, but if your corp is barren, no one else is going to come help you. If someone has a lot invested in a corp, they aren't going to just up and leave; the downside to communal corps, you get everything but you have nothing to take with you. So there it is. Players have 3 choices, suck it up and do what you can solo, change guilds and start over, or just log off.

Way too many people are choosing option 3.