Wraithbane wrote:

Too "high" compared to what?

Compared to player buy orders. The NPC buy orders should have been significantly lower to begin with.

Savin wrote:

No, Red, it's not about static playstyles- everyone, PvPers included, plays in a style that fits the game parameters, and today's patch introduces some major changes in those boundaries. The economy, resource gathering, and production have all changed in important ways- the majority of PvE players will have to change as well.

Also, be more specific: "there's more PvE now" is flat wrong; "there's more plaver versus NPC now" is much more accurate. PvE is more than that- it is politics, economics, industry, and research, all of which have clearly been subordinated to PvP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_environment

You know what he means. PvE refers to fighting computer controlled enemies in contrast to fighting other players. Industry & research is comparable to crafting/tradeskills in other games. They are not grouped together with PvE. The same with Politics and Economics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_player

Politics & Economics can be grouped with PvP, since these are aspects of players competing against each other.


As to the OP, Kernel buy order prices were too high to begin with.

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(21 replies, posted in General discussion)

Tokugawa wrote:

Forget it. You are useless in a pvp world. They don't want us in it as shown by patches like this latest. Find new game this one isn't player friendly unless you are in a dev corp.

This is false hmm

OP: There are many useful things you can do with an industrial character in PvP as suggested. Have fun yarr

The only thing I do not agree with is the kamikaze thing. Rush in, blow yourself up then find yourself back in a station?  Unimaginaitive.

It would be better to introduce things like AOE pulse bombs.

Also-AOE Demobilizers, AOE Accumulator Drainers/Neuts etc. Counter with AOE support. Much more complicated, but would be more fun than the kamikaze route.

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(9 replies, posted in Guides and Resources)

This is how I do mine:

Hi: 2 x Mag Tunings

Med: 5 x Magnetic Weapons

Low: sm. rep / univ. hardner / plate