RR is an option as you said.

The other option is engaging in Market PvP and beating your opponent by getting that bargain deal on that mech or t4 module.

Thanks for the informations !

So, the only solution is to do only RR... ?
For the scout work, indus bots are all very slow.

Okay...

So the support's roles are indeed very limited ; i'm afraid that in the futur the indus specialization will become totaly useless in PvP (especially with an efficient self-repair) and we can't say that the current RR is really fun to play.

Wait you're in d00bs corp, lol, even your miner bots are deadly!

please show me the pvp fitting with an efficient self repair - i really wanna go for that.

Industrial roles in PvP:

- Remote Repair
- Energy Transfer
- NEXUS buffer (accumulator, shield and velocity nexus are usefull for both combat and pvp)
- loot-collector (heavy armored Lithus, shield tank sequer)
- Neutralizer (shield-tank termis with neuts/drainer)

If your mining on Beta, its obviously that you got your armor or shield skills up, a good accumulator is a must have for miner, and due to the high fitting costs of mining industrial equip, you should be able to fit neuts, shields and such without problems.

Industrial players pvp on the market and deny resources to other players

Yes, it's rather disappointing to me. Don't get me wrong- there's nothing bad about a PvP focused game, obviously there are many people who will enjoy it. But there are many who wanted something more- I've already seen several people declaring that it's time to find another game- a bit dramatic and premature, but increasingly becoming the only remaining option.

You're right that the this direction might be a problem in the long run, mainly because the resulting game lacks depth. Changes like this make PvP fun again for a little while, but eventually it becomes repetitive again.

Of course, maybe we've had our head in the clouds- we need to realize that the dev team may simply be too small to handle the kind of complexity we've been calling for- a small, stable population of happy PvPers may be exactly the goal they have in mind.

sequer = radar bait.

sequer without masking module can be seen at 2250m by small bot or mech with standard detector.

Some of these posts seem to think that an industrial character has too limited a role in PvP.

...??

It's a matter of choices.

You can't choose an industry spec and expect to be optimised for combat. If that were the case, the whole idea of specialisation would be useless. I actually think the balance is right. As other people have already suggested, you can take an industrial character and give it a support role in pvp.

But if you really care that much about having a pvp character...get a second account? For the majority of people the subscription cost is negligible.

Savin, sometimes your posts read like "if you do PvP, you wont need to care about where your stuff comes from"

sure, some pvp corporations have a *** of NIC and equipment - but someone had to make that. From what i heard, losing bots in battles was a good way to make money from the insurance payout.