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totaly agree on what lupus said.

and that make me worried for the futur.

arga the suppressor tunning add there effect after the bonus apply from the bot.
bot bonus that allready change it from -25% range to  -40% on a zenith or intakt.   

getting double suppresse by -25% is not the same than -40%

so acttually getting double suppresse by -40% is the same as getting suppresse only 1 time by -65%

take the exemple of  a kain or tyrannos/artemis.
kain got 275m base  locking range
tyrannos/ artemis got 300m base  locking range

now assuming people got long range targeting at lvl 10 they got +50% for that so we got
412.5m for kain and 450 for the 2 other
most of the people get at least 1 amp on it so +45% from a t4. we are now at :
598m for kain and 653m for tyra/artemis for 1 amp
867m for kain and 946m for tyra/artemis for 2 amp

not get them double suppress by -25%
kain 598*0.75^2=336.4m       867*0.75^2=488m 
tyra/artemis 653*0.75^2=367m      946*0.75^2=532m

then double suppress by -40% done by zenith and intakt only actualy
kain 598*0.6^2=215m       867*0.6^2=312m 
tyra/artemis 653*0.6^2=235m      946*0.6^2=340m

now take this new 4 suppressor tuning on a zenith so the -65% range bonus and suppress with only 1
kain 598*0.35=209m       867*0.35=303m 
tyra/artemis 653*0.35=228m      946*0.35=331m

so as you can see 1 of this suppressor with 4 new tunning is allready more effective than 2 of actual suppressor just in suppressing locking range.

and i won't even go in the discussion about a vaga can lock down 3 target  etc etc
with the new ECM tuning you can fit 1 on a zenith and you allready got 76% EW strength when a vaga with no tunning and same skill got only 74% and you know the hudge difference between this 2 bot 1 can ecm with less accu at 525m when the other can ecm for more accu but at 700m. you will tell me than the vaga can fit a range extender to conpence the ECM tuning of the zenith but that would still let him at 603m  still less than the zenith.

so with ECM tuning Zenith just because of their EW range bonus are becomming even more supperior  in comparison to a vagabond.

when i created this topic i was speaking only for suppression tunning because i wanted to stay on the suppression and what i founded totaly stupid was this bonus for -x% locking range on this tunning.
but yeah we can elarge that to the ECM tuning to. and you will see again that the add of this 2 tuning are letting the vagabond become a useless bot in comparison with the zenith.

Why people would spend EP on a vaga when you can do the same job from far away and with the same EW strengh just for a little more accu conso. Tell me ?

now with this 2 tunning the best bot to do 1v1 is now a zenith mk2 with time you can kill whatever you want and the target will never be able to fight back  if you know how to fit your zenith with the good setup.

well 1 zenith with suppressor at -65% locking range  don't need to apply 2 suppressor on the same bot. and the vagabond needed to shutdown this zenith with ECM will need a lest 3 range extender to get is ECM optimal range near 700m were  the zenith is running whitout any range extender. so no sorry this zenith will be way mutch too overpower than any vagabond could be.

there is no bot in this game not even with farlock nexus and 2 amplifier  when suppressed by -65% locking range who could lock at more than 500m. so only 1 suppressor for 1 target is enought.

as always you are blind and jump to you easy conclusion. I was not speaking in anyway about support and combat char. who need amp when you can allready lock more longer than you can shoot.

and since you are talking about small scale roaming basicly in small scale roaming a full tuning dps fitted mech is even more dangerous. but since you are mister i know everythink you should allready know that.

look again  i would say

well they were several solution to kill an ERP tank prenerf. all this solution needed TIME or people

Do more damage than he can repair with his cycle time. add people for that if needed
or drain his accu to nothing.
or just use suicide bot.

this solution his in my eyes the better against expensive fit on expensive bot. just because you can kill whatever you want just with plated sequer t1 and the good support behind ECM and Demob.

your mech with engeneering won't had kill anything in a 1v1 againt tanked mech. trust me

in the better case you would had him neut to nothing and you would had deal less damage than is ERP would gave him ernergy to run 1 armor cycle time then neut him again and repeat this.

and during this time he would have just run to any outpost or teleport to go out or use some injector to repair and *** all your work to get him low hp whitout able to repair. all this in a 1v1 situation (somethink that will never happend a lot ofc) or he would have use like you some drainer to drain you and rune his rep .

before the nerf they was in a 1v1 situation with a little brain not even 1 bot able to kill a good tanked ERP mech.

now you can .

well the fact is that i don't see any nerf needed at all in the light ewar mk2 or mk1

and what you bring to ask for a nerf is not relevant since you gave number to the community whitout telling them that you got full T4 and skill at lvl 10 in long range Ewar spec obs  and maybee in nexus Ewar to . so yeah you maxed in all the aspect of the game the possibity of the demobilizer range and now you just tell that it's to overpower and that need a nerf.

no sorry i don't think it need a nerf since you can counter this with a tyrannos or a waspih with a good setup.

796m L demob on a light ewar will probably fail a lot since LOS  and 370m S demob range is nice but can be counter with waspish tyranos Zenith and what you want that can shoot more than 370m.

Ofc you can use land and cover to avoid getting damage, but like i said you need your alt in follow  for getting your nexus bonus and amp.  just kill the alt or get him demob from behind and your takler is less effective.

but yeah you got a good demob range but just for information a Zenith MK2 can have 769m S demob range. i won't speak about L since at this distance LOS wil *** de L demob efficacity a lot.

you just forgot to tell that this fit are possibly only if you are not alone, you need someone near you to bring you the speed and EW nexus bonus.

So you are still not the perfect takler with the longest demob rang and the best speed  since you can't acheive this alone in 1 bot only.

and your fit is
1 L demob
2 S demob
2 Range Extender T4
1 LWF T4
2 Coreactor T4

and you probably have an alt or another mate in a light ewar in nexus raneg to give you speed and ewar and maybee is also Sensor REmoting you  since you can lock more than 450m whitout.

So in my pt of wiew your fit is only viable in a team play. and don't deserve any nerf at all.