WAIT but you say "There are not enough gamma islands or players to make that many corps!"

I say:

.......Yet.

So go ahead but until the actual issue is solved, years down the road when there are that many players and corps, another gamma reset is and will be due for some more "work arounds".

Your right, I am not a developer, But one of my corp members could explain what I am trying to in very technical detailed manner. With all the correct words and lingo  that his masters degree provides.

My point was simply that the problems should be fixed. Not duct taped.

Not to be a naysayer Zoom, but it seems to me that these changes are being met with a resounding... NO! (for the most part) Although some of the ideas are great, while most of the actual proposed changes are horrible ideas.

Honestly though:

* Leave gammas as they were (mostly). (If your reasoning for limitations is a server issue... Upgrade your servers, Players experiences should not suffer because of a hardware or software issue that could be fixed with new and better equipment.)

* Fix the TFing bugs without screwing up Tfing entirely.
* Fix exploits without screwing up the entire colony system in general.
* Some of these changes are good. Most are horrible ideas that will never work once actually released.
* You may desire players to have competing terminals on islands.... Well unfortunately players will decide what players will do with their island as well as the betas. How long does an enemy terminal last on a Corps island? It doesn;t. within a month one or the other owns the entire island.

* No corp wants to share their resources and island with an enemy. (Maybe an alliance memebr) but never an enemy. And it never will happen. So don't try and make them.

**** This game is small. With a small player base. There are plenty of gammas for every single corp to have an island of it's own. (if they wanted). And if you change that little tidbit, then your going to just have a few corps holding all the gammas.

Every corp having the opportunity to experience gamma? = Good
Every gamma being held by a few corps = Bad

Your trying to do a good thing, Great, we love you for it. But if you can fix the gammas without destroying them in the process that would be awesome.

Not really, zoom. I've only actually seen a 100 man push once. The rest of the time its always been 30-50. (I was using an exaggeration as an example)

But my point with the exaggeration there was simply to say that a smaller corp should have a chance to defend against the larger beasts corps, rather then simply getting steamrolled by them.

While this system makes it almost impossible for any 30-50 man corp to go to Gamma at all, Nurfing the turrets means only corps with 150+ members (able to field those 30-50 man squads) can even consider living on Gamma.

Since the only "real" defense with all the other limitations you're imposing will be Bodies in Bots. Meaning Gammas will simply be for "The large corps" alienating the smaller ones, who will have no chance to own and keep anything on gamma, even if they fight for it tooth and nail.

At least with the Turrets current setup (+ the other 2 defensive suggestions you posted), the smaller corps will have a "Chance" to push the enemy back.

Yes I have, and I've watched CIR and 77 roll over many bases like they were paper. I am what someone mentioned earlier as a master builder / Planner when it comes to gamma colonies.

I know exactly what these changes will do in the lkong run, because I've seen what some corps could do in the old system without the proposed limitations.

The only thing this system will do is ensure that the massive corps/Alliances Own all the gammas. Because if your corp can;t beat them on it's own, and your gamma defenses and base is worthless, what do you have left to help you take on Big brother?

The answer is nothing.

The entire point of a gamma colony is to have a base of operations which is self sustainable, and a *** to take from you (especially with the billions of NIC required and materials for it). I agree that gammas need to be able to be roamed and explored and should not be able to be locked down. However I also agree that a Gamma colony should NEVER be easy to take or be able to be rolled over like it's paper.

It's a risk Vs reward thing, and these changes take every ounce of reward out, from having a gamma colony. This system makes it all Risk, and no reward. An NIC dump which a corp may spend weeks and months developing, only to lose it because a breath of wind comes along and puffs at it.

I've been gaming for ever 20 years in various sandboxy MMO's, my concerns are based on what I have seen in the past in other games, and the results to which they had on the playerbase and the game itself.

While yes, my concerns will not determine anything. Pointing out obvious flaws in scaling and the sociological experience of Perpettum caused by changes is something I have to do.

While you from CIR do not care because your fully aware that these changes will allow CIR to continue to own most of perpetuum due to your numbers and such, it is obvious that your Alliance and corp would support such changes.

Some cahnges are better for smaller corps and larger corps. Some just are better for ONLY the larger corps. Which once they attain a colony can never lose it because the system does not support smaller corps, only larger ones.

THAT is the issue with Eve online. That is also the issue with this proposed system. One of the main reason many players came here from Eve was the opportunity to actually get somewhere and become something and do something.

Which the old system allowed. As smaller corps could reply on massive colony defenses (Both teraformed and Turret placement) to defend against large alliance and corps invasions. In this system a smaller corp will simply be overan by a larger corp. Making going to gamma pointless for 80% of the games current corporations.

You know what happens when players know they can't participate in end game? They leave. This game released on Steam, it's population has grown. The last thing Perp needs to do is introduce a system which will kill it.

You know what Zoom if that's what it takes to do it right, then do it, I'd rather have something done and done right, then get a 4 corps absorbing everyone because people wanted it immediately. (But that's just my opinion).

On another note, since I gave criticisms, here are my solutions:

1. Create a facility which can be dropped to increase the CPU/PG (structure variable) increase, to allow the corp to drop more facilities, turrets and buildings.

* This building can be placed as many times as necessary. And there is no limit to the number of these facilities which can be placed.

2. Create a facility which you can drop to allow the corp to increase the range from the terminal buildings can be placed. This allows the colony to expand as necessary while still having the limiting factor if needed.

* No limit on the number of these facilities that can be placed.

This allows this system to function, and corps to expand their control influence as they grow. Rather then hard capping them in and forcing them to Put down multiple terminals. (Which hardcapping the number of buildings, and range from terminal, is a horrible idea since an island can only have 3)

Since it requires 100's and 1000's of turrets to properly defend some larger colonies this idea is well... ***.

It would be impossible to maintain and feed all those turrets ammo and such. You'd need 100 - 1000 people online 24/7 feeding the turrets ammo every hour of every day.

HOWEVER.

The reactor eventually needs to run out f power if not fed (like a pos in eve) and then shut everything down. There are many colonies out there with defenses which are dead corps taking up space. These colonies should shut down eventually or something.

Um.. I am not a carebear lol. And yes a 20 man corp can easily destroy 1000 man corp provided their strategy is appropriate to the situation as is their defense and offense. I saw it happen every day in EvE. And if it can happen in eve, it is even more likely here.

Also

Terra forming is only 1 part of a defense. Albeit said defense allows a person to create a network of other defenses. The idea of a smaller corp vs a larger one is to kill the larger corp through attrition, You make them waste their money time and resources on your defenses, while simultaneously hitting their production and supply lines. When they are weakened and batters your 20 man fully geared and tactically minded unit swoops in and destroys their colony which in their arrogance in numbers, was set up like a wet paper bag, and it goes down like one.

The first and last mistake you will ever make in combat is underestimating your opponent and his intelligence.

Sun T'su said:

the man who goes to war thinking he has already won, has in fact already lost. Yet the man who lets war come to him realizing he may loose and planning for such through preparation, has already won.

A larger force does not guarantee victory, A smaller force when used correctly can inflict insurmountable damage upon a larger enemies forces, to the point of crippling the enemy and causing them to withdraw, or if planned correctly annihilating the entire enemy force.

No offense but I think this is a very bad Idea, it's completely unrealistic and only makes managing a colony harder then it already is. Not to mention gives the larger corps and alliance an even bigger advantage over the little guys trying make their way in Perpetuum.

I'd like to know why no one ever comes up with ideas to help even the odds between smaller corps and larger corps. Only Ideas to make it impossible for smaller corps to even function. (Not referring to this idea specifically here, just in General). I mean The larger corps already have numbers money and bots, why the hell do you need more ways to ROFL Face stomp the smaller corps?

And yes, this is a Member of a larger corp defending the smaller corps. They have the right to experience everything everyone else does.