Yes the best fights i ever got to have was small gang PVP. Watching it get nerfed over the years has been sad

Detecter and Maskers:
I actually think this was a great introduction & mechanic to the game. I found this made mights along more fun & roaming far more interesting. The old hard rule of 1Km sucked & i remember many complaining how stupid it was that a mech & light bot had the same "view" range.

Speed nerfs/buffs:
Dude i remember running in fear when i firest started playing when seeing an Intakt lol Ewar bots were what all the cool kids used Im hoping MK3 brings back some of the fun Ewars had

Probes:
Yes the DEVs F***ED those up big time. But i have to wonder was having Arkhe trial accounts / alts on ever game any better? sure u can kill them easy but man when you see that kind of game play happening you know theres something missing / wrong with that section of the game.

Im still not convinced about Spark TPing.
Moving across the game world fast is nice, the balance side it you cant take you bot. The down side i can see is once you undock if you dont like the situation thats ok just dock & jump to another clone.
I still believe that spark TPing should remain unlimited Untill you undock. Then a timer starts on when you can next use the spark TP. 

Yet to use the ewar tunings.. etc. But i think its still cool to have those as options in game.

AOE: So your next to a reactor as it melts down & blows up & your there in your board shorts? Yeah its gonna hurt. AOE i think could be made even harsher TBH. i think Interference Should increase blast radius. That way it becomes an even more powerful anti blob mechanic.

Interference on its own still lacks something... i can never put my finger on what tho.

As for the Dynamic ore fields i gotta be blunt here mate... Cry me a river lol. static fields on beta islands ment easy kills for lazy pvpers imo.
But heres the thing ore fields can still last a little while. Just depends on the amount of miner activity. So the more active they are the more chance you have of getting them. the less active tho the longer the fields will be there & at least you know the location... maybe.

Walls and Terraforming:
Yep your right & as ive stated in the other thread they still lack proper balance. Im not against people making "safe" areas. But as it stands right now its not hard to lock off a whole island.

True Pros make a Podcast to influence the Devs minds, 
The rest of you guys are Hacks

PS. I got my Highways & stopped playing b4 they came in & have never used them! ...... Irony much ?

i get what your saying Anni BUT if carebears want to be safe there is alpha. The problem is the PVP islands can be converted into alpha lol.

First off At the Care Bears: They have had it lucky for most of this games history. with low population its ment going out & bearing it up on a beta was a worth while risk. A care bear should not expect to be safe on a PVP island with out the proper backup or having active combat PVPers on the island.
The Devs shouldnt fear about lose of carebears for PVP changes Since the best protection should always be live players, Not Walls / TF / Probes.

But saying that Alpha & the missions system needs love. They are so stupidly boring that when i have to do them i tend to stop playing the game after for a week or so.
More challanging game play for Solo & Team on Alpha is needed so people that have a more casual play style or prefer to carebear still stay with the game.

Second: One of the bigger driving forces to the game is PVP its where alot of in game produced items normally endup going in 1 way or another. If the PVPers go away the market slows down.. miners have less orders to fill, producers sell less stock.
Sure people still build but from my personal experience it tends to switch to personal stock piling or replacinging a few lost bots from PVE.
The only other factor is New players. they do push up demand for items / bots.

If you dont believe me then you should have seen the mineral market a few months ago. very low prices & small buy orders. These were all signs of a market thats was nearly 100% dead. The only reason to my knowledge it kicked back into life was the greenlight thing & blackomen sinking 10s of billions into it.

we have 30 PVP islands & it would be a shame to see them all walled off over time leaving us with the old 6 beta islands for small / meds pvp

True Pros make a Podcast to influence the Devs minds, 
The rest of you guys are Hacks

PS. I got my Highways & stopped playing b4 they came in & have never used them! ...... Irony much ?

cool story

Maybe we are actually playing an ultra-realistic simulation of what it would be like if the human race tried to colonize another planet using robots controlled through wormholes and there would be no such thing as silly small scale conflicts...
*puts down the crack pipe*

Agree with most of OPs points.
Detection, probes and arkhe scouts are a particularly critical set of things that are hard to get right.  They can't be considered in isolation.  When it comes to open world pvp it's all about information and misinformation (a lot like a game of poker really).

Have to disagree about the Zenith demob range though, imo it's far too good at demobing as things stand.  Having a mech that's better at tackling than any small bot makes light ewar tackle redundant and also limits hit and run tactics which could otherwise make for fun encounters.

This is sadly true.

I see one big problem here, Perpetuum MORE FUN in small scale PVP than ANYTHING else, I basically played the game because of it. And I am not against big scale just let happen small also.

I used to pvp alone, and was fun, but before spark teleports I felt like "hundred miles" over some fight didnt want to start. So this is not as bad.

My 2 biggest problem here, the detectors and was the arkhe scouts (what is nerfed afaik) and changed short range ammos. Nowadays If you go without detectors you die, or at least dont find anything because everybody move away.

THE PROBLEM IS HERE: Need to solve the issue, you dont want to PVE, you just farming like a "blind mouse". So we need more life on islands (But I dont want to kill miners.) and than you can find PVP. And also if you do PVE you fit your bot different than you go PVP (as Anni said). So when you find anybody you will just had the advantage after the "farmers".

My idea: Make a building what you can attack (NPC-s defend it) and then you earn money (because this building sent energy to earth, syndicate pay for energy) or something or any idea to be incentiveness to be on Gamma, Beta islands.

Khader... Would you try to... create something... big...
If you wanna single roams - what for you need MMO?.. Play single games.
I can agree with some points, but not all.

Why play solo games if I like PVP just not blob warfare. Fail Hunter nerf ERP, MMO doesn't mean 30 vs 30 it just means massivly multiplayer online not forced to blob online. Even in that other game we always compare Perp with there is meaningfull small gang or solo PVP experiance. I know I lived in a 6 man corp in a wormhole we would scan out back doors to 0.0 and raid the people living there. 6 vs 6, 6 vs 10, heck 1-2 odds aren't that bad but if I can't get to or find a target with out the target first knowing (A.) I'm on the island and (B.) What bot I'm in, I've already lost what I brought before PVP starts because the enemy will just deploy higher class/tier bots and stomp out easy win... Not that its bad to do that you are defending your home. No one wants to play on a level field when its their choice. The problem is that choice is easily made for them with Probes on teleports and detectors.

Hunter, Balf, Inda, Sir Vampire, Neverfelt, Sxorpion, Jean Mi, Chorizzo, Frostbite, Lemon all these people were very good at solo pvp so much so that when they were seen solo you might think to not engage with out help. Out of those people named only 3 still play and I haven't seen much out of any of them but Balf lately.

Why has solo pvp and small gang roams died. Now the only way to get pvp is go make someones base sound an alarm that won't stop.

Remove probes from 1000m of telleports and make an easy counter like interference emiter scrambles the probes brains (for the ones people wall in and terraform in) and make masked standard teleport beacons.

lol, DEV zoom loves those requests of features that are already in for ages...

To be honest, some points are valid. What I see killing small pvp is not the mechanics but rather the people. for example you see one or two hostiles in assault, you go after them in assaults, to only have the hostiles lead you into a logged out blob.

Log out blobs kill small pvp, because they turned small scale pvp into a beat for the blob.

so if you complain about small pvp dieing well thats why, as much as many people want to do small scale pvp but have been caught so many times in log out traps, doesn't take to many of these before the victims to this will just bring out 2x the number of hostiles they find. Then general lights up with the Blob crying begins.

for me there are only a couple of people (aka veterans) I would give a straight fight to because of what I mentioned above.

most pvp that happens now a days is in response to something else.

to be honest these days, when people pvp they bring 4, 5 ,6 different corps to fight someone so they obviously aren't interested in small pvp.

I can see small pvp coming back with the increased in population, because out of ever 4 new subs atleast 1 want to pvp.

also how do you define small pvp? 2 on 2, 2 on 4, 4 on 4. or is it just even numbers you are looking for?

you will only find "small scale" PvP when you have someone esle seeking the same running around and accidentally meet that one on the big world.

accidentally meeting is almost not possible due to some circumstances. The ones "living" on pvp islands got two choices: Walling off any threat to their PvE Agents, or beeing open to the PvP starving Agents that will farm you until you lose stamina to rebuild.

seriously - is somewhere out there doing PvP and PvE activities with the same bot and fit... or even same agent?

Its game mechanics, player mentality and population to equal shares

higher population wont last long if the game mechanics make game boring (aka no pve)
game mechanic changes wont help if they are working against player mentality (aka forcing player into PvP)
player mentality wont help if only a small part of the population likes to pvp under the current conditions..

Wrong again Tux
Defending a Gamma just don't undock, simple as that let it all go reinforced (which almost all buildings now do) and have it come out when you know you have a blob online..... Defending a Beta me and kanogi held KKO for a long time with just the 2 of us, Pitfiend held Heydle solo for a long time after me and kanogi left 62nd. Hunter holding multiple bases gamma and beta. Not easy?

Balf is an early access account that specialized in being sneaky and having high dps that and he is a great pvp'er that is why he is 2nd on the Killboards also having STC come to your island to fight you in a friendly PVP match doesn't hurt your K/D ratio either. I can tell you I was there on most of the fights as pure E-war which I spec'd to because I have Kanogi and Balf to hide behind. Those were good fights BTW. http://www.perp-kill.net/?m=view&id=249199 Since you want to turn this personal and drag it to Corp Chat. These ideas were all talking points me kanogi and Balf went over in the past few weeks about the direction of this game and small scale roaming. Seems more like you want Blob any way after you fled from 62nd because no one was in your timezone QQ and your corp <12> is working with CIR, Look now we have Rex, Gunner, Arc X, and Balf Pitfiend back seems you burned bridges before you were over them. Or maybe you want to come back and play with us? Bring back all the 62nd bots that went MIA the day you let Mkay.

A> Small gangs imo are 2-5 people in Mechs or smaller. 8-10 accounts if multiboxing. (fair fight? nothing is ever fair but equal numbers vs equal numbers would be great)
B> If I wanted to kill noobs I would go camp the telleports with a detector and an assault logged off. That is not a Good fight.
C> If I wanted to kill miners I would go scan for the ore and loggoffski with a mech on a spot and over watch with detector. LOL could do both B&C with 3 accounts
D> I know how to move in and out of places with out being spotted ask Ville "Ninja vanish" and he has 3 detectors looking for me and I still escaped.
E> If I wanted PVP on a platter I would just put a base up beside the NEBS one and Undock up cliff. LOL was great work Chaos. Had me LOLing looking at pics.

Really how about the ones right on the teleport.... same as arkhe but better because you don't need 3 windows open!!!!!!
People don't want forced PVP then they shouldn't be on a PVP island

Being on a gamma island isn't all about pvp....you get better production and resource you can't get  on beta's or alpha's, highest npc spawn...best artifacting as well.....so you can see the attraction isn't just about pvp to have a base on gamma.

oh by the way the siege with chaos was long hours and good experience, it was truly touch and go the whole time. We also learned from it as well, but over all what did we loss during the siege not much at all. The terminal tactic was interesting indeed and we will use it as well in the future.

FYI option E didn't work out so good, but it was still interesting.

I would also like to point out that NEBS have been attacked by almost every faction in the game since we took a beta outpost. Even by the friends we have today, and we are still here still playing and fighting. the only time we couldn't hold our lines is when the opposing force got so big to the point it was pointless to even undock, so you can see blobbing wins battles. Thats what we learned from our enemies, if you can't win with 10, bring 20, then 30, then 40, then 50 that the magic number I guess....

even though B.O.S hates us at the moment they can verify this since they were their fighting along side us.

lets get back on topic.