Oh, got it.  Because I'm a noob, I should NOT be on an alpha 2 and should be sequestered to the alpha 1's until I'm of sufficient NON-noobishness to live on an alpha 2.

Elitism on Perpetuum... undertsood.

You're claiming that noobs SHOULD be limited in the range they can mine for no good reason other than they're noobs and they don't NEED to live anywhere other than an alpha 1 and you're claiming that a 30 minute timer would turn the islands into some can trash heap.

Then explain to me why I see Rivelers having to hug terminals to mine.  Why I don't see miners on the remote sections of the island even though there's gobs of good mins there.  This isn't a noob breaking issue, it's a solo mining breaking issue.  Noob or otherwise. 

You combat types are free to go anywhere on the island and not worry about how far out you are.  I, however am forced into a restricted area simply because I choose to solo mine and there's a restrictive time limit on cans.

Explain to me what game/experience-enhancing concept you're envisioning when miners (noob or ancient) are forced to hug terminals, outposts and teleporters or wait until they can find someone to join them but combat types aren't restricted.

I'm not asking to mine epi.  I'm on an alpha 2 that's mostly concrete around the ONE terminal.  I was given waypoints by the corp.  Within that 3000m circle there are 3 titan fields, 1 stermontit field that's been mined dry in the past 2 days and one HDT field.  Anything beyond those and I risk not being able to get my can.

And as for what I can and can't do, it's not like I'm asking to kill an overseer with a Castle.  I'm asking to be able to find ores in range to mine and not have to freak out about my can disappearing.  And it's not like I'll make more NIC mining further out. On the contrary, I'll make less due to longer travel times.  The way you're overreacting you seem to think having longer can times is somehow going to make my noob mining overpowered or that I'm asking to pwn that overseer.  Hardly.

Ok, so you say 15 minutes is TONS of time... let's investigate that from a noobs perspective.

One of the guys in my corp found what he called Mt. Liquizit.  So I go to investigated it in a Castle.  Takes me 7 minutes to get to the location even in a light bot so I have to tell the guy, thanks for the intel but it's useless to me.

Reason being, I'm a noob.  My miner barely runs 50km/s.  If I run out there, drop a can and start mining, I have 7 minutes to get back to the terminal and then 7 minutes to get back to my can.  Assuming ZERO errors, ZERO crashes to desktop and ZERO mobs trying to intercept me, I MIGHT make that round trip.  If I don't, I lose everything I mined.  Not worth the risk.

I understand this game is set up to FORCE socialization.  However, not everyone wants to sit around bored staring at a can watching a miner and not everyone will willing haul for a miner.

Second of all, I don't have the EP to share with another alt on my account and even if I did what you guys suggest, logging an alt in and out of where the can is, is an unnecessary pain in the ***.

Allow me to elaborate...

Log my main in, drive to the mining site, log out.
Lot my alt in, drive to the mining site, log out
Log my main in, drop can, begin mining.
Drive my main back to the terminal when done mining.
Log my alt in to refresh the can.
Log my alt out.
Log my main in and get in the Sequer, drive to the mining site and collect 1 batch of ore.
Drive the Sequer back to the terminal.
Unload Sequer, log the main out.
Log my alt in to refresh the can.
Log my alt out.
Log my main in and get in the Sequer, drive to the mining site and collect 1 batch of ore.
Drive the Sequer back to the terminal.
Unload Sequer, log the main out.
Log my alt in to refresh the can.
Log my alt out.
Log my main in and get in the Sequer, drive to the mining site and collect 1 batch of ore.
Drive the Sequer back to the terminal.
Unload Sequer, log the main out.
Etc until the can is empty.

Inconvenient doesn't even begin to describe this sequence of events.  Damned stupid is closer to reality.

Thirdly, I shouldn't be FORCED to get a second account just to be able to solo mine
effectively.  Eventually I may.  I shouldn't HAVE to.

Finally, being a NOOB shouldn't be a reason to sequester me to within 2000m of a terminal or teleport just to be able to mine.

30 minutes of can time would solve that alt/refresh problem, allow miners to put a LOT more ore/commodities on the market and not cause you pirates THAT much of a pain in the arse.

Where do you see in this post that I'm angry?  Where in that discussion was MT ever brought up?

Fail troll.

By the way, tell all those former EVE *** OP's to go play with their monocle.

Patch didn't work, read post #95 here.

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